Playing the race card to excuse the failure of others; Part #1 of 3

Excusing irresponsible behavior by blaming The Other is how

Identity politics hurts the most vulnerable

The Lord High Commissioner of Blaska Policy Werkes advised a candidate running against incumbent Alder Mo Cheeks two years ago. We started by bellowing into our candidate’s face: “YOU X#!*X#X RACIST!”

“W-W-WHAT?” the discombobulated candidate yelped.

Get used to it, we counseled. Never mind that you have lived in your neighborhood 30 years. Does not matter that you are vice president of your neighborhood association, etc. You are a white man running against a black man in The Emerald City. That makes you a racist. Sure enough, he was soon played the race card, face up.

As was school board candidate Cris Carusi in today’s Wisconsin State Journal (12-30-18).

Race-shaming is big business in Madison WI. Scam artists have set up shop their race swindles in town, selling white guilt to the easily fooled: Groundwork and Families for Justice.  

Groundwork No New Jail

From the home page of Groundwork’s web page. The No New Jail people actually shut down the apparently racist Dane County Board of Supervisors in November 2017

Selling hate to the gullible

It’s how the Left explains the failure of More Free Stuff liberalism. It is true that students of color are disproportionately failing their classwork and are suspended from school. The black arrest rate is, indeed, 10 times higher than the white. The only answer, according to the race hustlers: they are victims! Their teachers, the school district, the police, the entire legal system are Racist To The Core. 

Which is why terribly “woke” school board members Dean Loumos, T.J. Mertz, and Anna Moffit (all Progressive Dane) wanted to kick the cops out of our troubled high schools. They actually believe, as the social justice warriors claim, that police are trained to kill students of color even though the school resource officers themselves are minority races. (More here.)

“We’re all steeped in racism,” said Laura McNeil, a volunteer with Groundwork, a Madison “white anti-racism collective.”

Chris Rickert writes about it in today’s WI State Journal.

Confronted with the reality of white supremacy and the unearned privilege they enjoy, white people will often exhibit “white fragility,’ generally defined as the emotional distress they feel when forced to confront racism or race in general, activists say. 

So, when you see a black person doing something you perceive as suspicious, … you can think twice before acting on it. … Thornton said five or 10 years ago, if he’d seen a couple of black teens peeking in the windows of his parked car, he would have called the police. “Now, I think I’d turn on an outside light,” he said.

Chew on that a while. If Thornton is able to turn on a light, the car is in his driveway. But don’t call the cops — unless the perps are white, of course! Does he ever think that calling the cops might save those kids’ lives or of their innocent victims? That the cops might help steer their lives in a more sustainable direction?

Blaska’s Bottom LineGroundwork or Families for Justice are nothing more than excuse mills, generating even more failure by blaming Somebody Else.

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62 Responses to Playing the race card to excuse the failure of others; Part #1 of 3

  1. Tom Paine says:

    Heck wid the truth…….Rickert has to save his job……..to he reflects the Nichols/Nation party line.
    No racism……….only certain races get coverage at the Indian Healthcare Service. Mike Royko wrote about it years ago. Equality now. We’re all citizens of Lake Wobegon.
    Me? My cause is social justice for women. Too few are arrested compared to males in prison. We must build more prisons for women………………………and then fill them, justly.
    Be realistic, demand the impossible. Vinceremos!

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  2. steve says:

    Yup. I had the same thought about Thornton. How stupid can he get? I recently carried on a “discussion” with a young tranny prog who lives on the near SW side about the Tree Lane apartments. This was in response to a Cap Times column that claimed that the people who criticize the complex and the thuggery that goes on there as being insensitive and lacking empathy to the people who live there. I pointed out that the biggest fallacy was to claim a lack of sensitivity, since the whole apt complex was put up out of empathy for the plight of homeless people. But, many of those who moved in, are totally ungrateful and use it as their criminal playground, thereby, ignoring the best efforts of the community to find them a place to live. Well, the tranny never responded to my point and immediately began calling me names and posting pics intended to mock me. S”he” never ONCE raised a relevant point of discussion. I accused “her” of being racist and s”he” exploded. I explained that “her” racism was a condescending racism of low expectations. The thugs need to be understood, coddled and tolerated. It is the woman who lives across the street from the complex, who wrote that she no longer took her evening walks, who is the racist. When you don’t expect much of people, that shows what you think of them. Madison progs are probably the most racist people in our community. And it takes a certain kind of Orwellian thinking to reject that simple idea.

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    • Tom Paine says:

      Pointless to continue discussion with Twisted Sister, but if she insists, ask why blacks and Italians and Slav’s can’t own and run casino’s in Wisc. Are gaming rights distributed by RACE? Evidence is strong enough for even the grade school kids to see.

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      • AnonyBob says:

        The tribes have casinos because they’re sovereign nations, not because of they’re brown.

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        • Cornelius Gotchberg says:

          @AnonyBob;

          Sooooo, why hasn’t Elizabeth ”Lieawatha-Fauxchontas” Warren opened one?

          Loosely attributed to Henry Ford:

          “Any man who thinks he can be happy and prosperous by letting the government take care of him better take a closer look at the American Indian.”

          The Gotch

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        • Tom Paine says:

          Nations, you say? Liberal hogwash. They fund their own colleges, public schools, roads, medical care, their own money system, their own defense forces? TRIBES are on the perpetual dole. Beside, consider the “nation” construct as applied to natives………………………ISN”T that race-based government? Of course it is, but the contradiction for white lib’s is the same type of contradiction we’ve learned about the Antebellum South when their leaders pointed to Liberty in the US.

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        • AnonyBob says:

          Sorry, Paine, you may not like it but it’s not liberal hogwash. The tribal nations’ legal status are recognized by the federal government. You’ll just have to deal with it. Let me guess: you think you should be able to spearfish walleye at night, too.
          Gootch: try making a shred of sense.

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        • richard lesiak says:

          I worked for the casino in Baraboo for 20 years. Crotch and Paine know nothing of which they speak. Take a tour of their wellness center; impressive and paid for entirely by them. Unlike trump’s failure at the casino business they are successful.

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        • Tom Paine says:

          Bob,
          Your argument is like Jefferson Davis and the Confederacy to Lincoln — slavery is the law of the land. It was, but that had nothing to do with what the future of the US became. Bob, are you a Confederate in disguise? If not, stop arguing like one.

          “Yes,” the claim of “nation” is liberal hogwash, and “Yes,” you’re correct that the Federal Government uses that term. However, I think we can all agree, the Fed’s have no claim to omniscience or justice. To support that contention, one only need point to antebellum slavery or the 20 million ‘illegal’s’ in the nation. Just because the Feds and the states sanction racial discrimination, the legal imprimatur has no more value that the legalistic screams of George Wallace as he pointed to the ‘colored’ drinking fountains.

          The issue is this: Does the government use RACISM for governing principles; for the redistribution of wealth; for racially discriminatory purposes, in direct conflict with the Equal Protection Clause of the 14th Amendment?

          If “indian tribes” can self-identify as nations; if men can identify as women or whatever’s, then clearly, blacks can self-identify as “nations” for casino rights, among many other privileges that they, like whites, are now denied by our racist laws.

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        • AnonyBob says:

          Hm, never been asked if I was a confederate in disguise before…
          Slavery WAS the law of the land, it took acts of Congress (and war) to curtail and end it. The rights Native Americans now have were agreed to by treaty with the US govt., not with the states, Wallace notwithstanding. Is/was the govt. racist? Sure, just not to the natives’ benefit (unless you consider the Trail of Tears and genocide beneficial). The tribes recently figured out how to make money from gambling, based on their treaty rights and tribal legal status, not their race. Old white guys never seemed too concerned when the reservations were pits of poverty; now that the tribes are making money that no one else can, the old white guys (AKA Trump’s base) are fearful and threatened, just like they are by women, ”whatevers,” affirmative action beneficiaries, blacks, browns, etc.

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        • Tom Paine says:

          Tribal rights are derived by race and blood quantum. You admit the formal policy of the US Gov is to affirm racism. Lots of “indians” don’t qualify for tribal goodies because they are not racially pure enough. Now explain how/why all treaties should not be absolved, just as was the post WWI Versailles Treaty.

          Ethically – politically, do you, Bob, believe in the equal treatment clause….or is that just a meme of the civil rights movement? Eh, why not 20 votes for employers or those who pay taxes over 20K per year? Where does the logical defense of INEQUALITY take you on so many fronts?

          Finally, who is better-off today? Descendants of N.American tribes or the “native” peoples of Brazil who remain untouched by poison of industrial progress and the Enlightenment? Tribes, who formerly warred with each other for ‘lands’ and who knows what else, should be THANKFUL to Europeans who brought science, industrialism, and other benefits of The West. All tribes have the “freedom” today to reject The West and return life of 1000 years ago. How many do you know who would tear Western plumbing out of their homes? who would crush their eyeglasses on the base of the statue of C. Columbus? who embrace traditional heating by sticks, sans chainsaw-cut wood? who would cut holes in the ice into which they could drive their wicked snowmobiles? who would voluntarily return to arrows and spears, sans metal?

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        • AnonyBob says:

          The Versailles Treaty was not absolved, it was ignored by Hitler and unenforced by the allies. What that has to do with treaties between the US and the tribes escapes me. Are you saying they should be abrogated because the tribes are racist when determining the blood of their own membership? That’s kind of lefty of you. I don’t see that as any more inequitable than the Swiss refusing to issue me one of their passports.
          Who is better off than they were in the past? You and I, most likely the descendants of working poor or sharecroppers, are. After the native populations were decimated by disease & superior weaponry, forcibly relocated to unlivable lands, their culture and language banned, many of them will argue they AREN’T better off than they were prior to Columbus.

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        • Tom Paine says:

          Bob, your claim about Versailles —- wrong. Reparations were never enforced in perpetuity. Check the Dawes and Young plans where massive financial changes to benefit Germany were made.
          Moreover, after WWiI, there was no attempt to preserve the sanctity of WWI Versailles Treaty.

          You ask, “Are you saying they should be abrogated because the tribes are racist when determining the blood of their own membership?” No, I am not. I am merely observing that laws of the US today incorporate and apply OBJECTIVELY racial (racist) criterion for a host of civil and governmental rights. IMHO, this, like antebellum slavery, stands in stark contrast to the Equal Protection Clause of the 14th Amendment. IMO, treaties should be abolished; no special services to Indians/Tribes that anyone else in the US also cannot avail themselves. That is one of lessons of Nazi Germany. No group should receive superior legal rights, nor should they be denied to any other group. Equality before law that must be color-blind. Treaties are antithetical to that idea.

          Finally, you argue that “many [Indians] of them will argue they AREN’T better off than they were prior to Columbus.” That, by any standard, is absurd. And, it is false. What tribe is seeking to return to pre-Columbian lifestyles of the stone age? Name one.

          Who the hell wants to practice cannibalism? Which tribe wants to make war on another, as the Sioux fought the Chippewa? What arctic tribe disavows the use of rifles, synthetic fish nets, gasoline, chainsaws, snowmobiles, atv’s, or even prescription eyeglasses?

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        • AnonyBob says:

          Not following you on Versailles. The treaty WAS ignored: reparations were never paid (at least in full), and certainly not in perpetuity, and the allies didn’t enforce it because there was no appetite for further conflict. And yes, post-WWII superseded post-WWI: no sanctity of Versailles there.

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        • Tom Paine says:

          RE_ Dawes and Young Plans; reconstruction of national borders and colonial borders –WWI and WWII —Versailles

          POINT is “treaties” are modified often. They are not eternal elements of our government — as the Bill of Rights are. Thus, ‘treaties” with “sovereign nations” { AKA stone-age tribes,] can be modified. Hogwash and silly to consider tribes as “nations.” OMG that is like saying a blade of grass is dangerous weapon.

          Enough. You are beyond hope. Sprocket was correct.

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        • AnonyBob says:

          Paine, you do know about the Iroquois Confederacy and the influence those “Stone Age” tribes had on our founding fathers and the constitution, don’t you?

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        • Tom Paine says:

          BS Bob,
          Yeah, Like the accuracy of the Chief Seattle Speech.…………..BS.

          Look it up. Use Google, It will help you find a measure of diverse interpretations.
          Check with any constitutional scholar……….and you’ll discover your view about Iroquois influence is misplaced and lacks basis in fact. Check out, Being and Becoming Indian, ch1. Or try, History of the Ojibway People, by William Warren. — and Yes, I have read them.

          Tribes are free to return to the NON-Western way of life any time they like. No law says they have to live in Western Houses, etc.

          At least I’ve a strong suspicion you’ve been educated at the UW of Eau Claire…..where they taught the Chief Seattle stuff as fact for years. Couple of other books to round out your educational deficiency on these subjects — >> [ as I practice Noblesse Oblige for intellectually handicapped folks who practice the notion that arrogance is a substitute for wisdom ]

          and of course, you might learn something from this:

          https://www.amazon.com/Ecological-Indian-Myth-History/dp/0393321002/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1546638564&sr=8-1&keywords=Myth+of+the+ecological+indian

          Report back us Wen U Done wid ur Home work. Till then, go away

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        • AnonyBob says:

          Take a breath, Paine, I never intended to get into such a long discussion about Native Americans. I’m not an anthropologist and never claimed to be an expert on NA, nor did I attend UWEC, nor do I romanticize the Nobel Savage. I’ll concede you’re better read on the subject, although nothing you’ve presented so far (from what I can tell from reviews of the books you cite) explains why you refuse to accept the tribes as nations. Whether by dictionary definition or by recognition from our federal and state governments, they’re considered nations. Yes, I was aware the Seattle speech is Hollywood hokum and yes (I’ve now learned), there is controversy about where the Iroquois Confederacy fits in our nation’s institutional narrative.
          Perhaps you can employ some of that Noblesse Oblige to teach me more about your command of arrogance. 😉

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  3. Batman says:

    Steve wrote:
    “I accused “her” of being racist and s”he” exploded. I explained that “her” racism was a condescending racism of low expectations.
    The thugs need to be understood, coddled and tolerated. It is the woman who lives across the street from the complex, who wrote that she no longer took her evening walks, who is the racist. When you don’t expect much of people, that shows what you think of them. Madison progs are probably the most racist people in our community.”
    ========================================================================
    “Does race trump truth?”
    Here is what Chloe Valdary has to say on the subject.

    https://www.prageru.com/videos/dont-judge-blacks-differently

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    • Cornelius Gotchberg says:

      The talented Ms. Valdary: “How do I shake off the (Lefty) condescenders, the patronizers?”

      How indeed!

      Lefties (most, not all) are HOOKED ON THE FEELIN’ that they’re helping people that simply can’t function without secular Divine Intervention.

      Absent that, them there endorphins don’t ramp and the hand-wringing/brow-furrowing is for naught.

      And when the Messiah Complex doesn’t kick in, it gets ugly FAST!

      The Gotch

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  4. Cornelius Gotchberg says:

    The picture of the proud banner-wielding No New Jail folks above shows an distinct lack of diversity.

    The lucid are left no choice but to conclude that YES, those people really ARE that stupid!

    The Gotch

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  5. madisonexpat says:

    Tree Lane Apts. is Madison’s Cabrini Green. How’d that work out? Remember Somerset Circle? Rinse, repeat.

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  6. richard lesiak says:

    Part 1 of the righties bellowing about their new found super-villain. You can go down the usual checklist any day; Blacks, Hispanics, Indians, Hillary, the Obamas; everyday a new flavor. Topping the list right now is Cortez, but have no fear. Hannity will point them at someone as soon as he returns from vacation. One thing for sure is it won’t be Putin or the murderous Saudis. AMIRIGHT

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    • Cornelius Gotchberg says:

      Curious; is Hannity vacationing at the same posh Hawaiian resort as SanFranNan?

      Forget about that, SHE’S a public servant that SERVES at the behest of the public, and is paid with tax dollar$, and is, thus, neglecting her duty!

      Alexandria $21 Trillion in Pentagon Scratch-Offs, And, Oh, BTW, I’m Jewish Ocasio-Cortez is an Idiot Savant.

      She & CallMeBetoCauseI’mAnEthnicityThiefAnd’llGetMoreVoteIfIPretendImHispanic O’Rourke are IDEAL brain-dead morons to lead Lefties, whom we’ve found to be similarly intellectually equipped.

      No surprise your (sic) a fan.

      And PokeyHonkey (H/T @madisonexpat) herself, Elizabeth “Lieawatha-Fauxchahontas” Warren, has thrown her WarBonnet into the fray.

      Lefty INC awaits!

      The Gotch

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      • richard lesiak says:

        You outdid yourself with the grievance mongering on this one gotch. Cortez isn’t in office yet and she has you foaming at the mouth. Maybe you should put some energy into looking at mr. little hands. His own staff say he’s an idiot. He just called a retired 4 star general “a dog” for not kissing his ring. Where’s the outrage from the flag waving trumpy bear crowd? Silence. Where’s Nancy? How about, where’s Lyin’ Ryan? He still is speaker ‘ya know. Oh yeah; he’s getting a free ride traveling around on his “farewell and good riddance tour.”

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        • Cornelius Gotchberg says:

          @richard lesiak;

          “Cortez isn’t in office yet and she has you foaming at the mouth.”

          My bad! I have a legendarily low tolerance for abject imbecility, which I have difficulty containing.

          But youse have been paying attention and know that, am I right?

          The Gotch

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    • Gary L. Kriewald says:

      Let’s go down the checklist on the other side: Trump, Trump;s family,.Trump’s staff, Trump’s cabinet, Brett Kavanaugh, “Deplorables,” ICE, anyone who whispers a word of doubt about climate change, Xmas songs from the 1940s,. Everyday a new flavor, indeed.

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  7. Gary L. Kriewald says:

    “We’re all steeped in racism.” –Laura McNeil. Sounds like something Cotton Mather would howl in one of his sermons 300 years ago–except, of course, he’d substitute Sin for racism.. More proof that the peddlers of white guilt are the direct descendents of the Puritans in all their venomous intolerance and blind devotion to their belief system. The Puritans conceived of a shining city on a hi8ll, free from the slightest taint of sin–or dissent. Little did they know that a perverse version o0f their dream would come to pass in–of all places–Wisconsin. And that its congregation of saints would be a pack of privileged, self-hating secularists. The guise of fanaticism may change over time, its core principles, never.

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    • Tom Paine says:

      Mr. Kriewald,

      Commendation. Your post is spot-on, though I doubt many here have even read a sentence of Perry Miller. Additionally, the intolerance of the Left also surfaced before and during WWI., Local mobs demanded proof of patriotic conformity: Buy War Bonds or else you might be tarred and feathered or run out of town. Others were shot or hanged. Those who doubt this can read Fite’s, Opponents of War, or Preston’s, Alien and Dissenters.

      Creel Committees’ were not needed to motivate the mob. Similarly, we see the same imperative for ideological purity in the actions of Chinese Red Guard Movement. And of course, everyone remembers the millions of murders by the Khmer Rouge in Kampuchea.

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      • AnonyBob says:

        Your view of history is confusing me, Paine (along with Kriewald’s stretch of an analogy about Puritans and the left, instead of – more accurately – Puritans and the intolerant evangelical right). Not many consider “proof of patriotic conformity” a characteristic of the left. Prior to WWI, socialists, I.W.W.’s and conscientious objectors, along with the majority of Americans, opposed entering the war. Wilson’s Creel Committee ginned up the patriotism of that majority after entering the war, to the detriment of the left, the Wobblies and the C.O.’s. Now, I haven’t read the books you cite, but the summaries and reviews of them don’t seem to square with your take on them. Those weren’t mobs of the left tarring and feathering the right.

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        • Cornelius Gotchberg says:

          @AnonyBob;

          “Your view of history is confusing me”

          Being confused is a feature, not a bug, to career Lefties, am I right?

          Anywho, but youse referencing Woody It’s Like Writing History With Lightning Wilson, the racist, war-mongering, KKK luvin’, Jim Crow backin’, hate-filled Father of the Proglibocracy, and harbinger of what was to come?

          Priceless!

          The Gotch

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        • AnonyBob says:

          Mr. Vacuous Cheap Shot. I learn so much from your wordy ramblings.

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        • Tom Paine says:

          Bob,
          Understanding requires a measure of intellectual depth. To assist you, I’ll borrow the words of Mr Kriewald above —> “The guise of fanaticism may change over time, its core principles, never.”

          The psychological imperative for conformity is now exemplified by Antifa, OWS, and even the Cap Times aka Nation-lite. Psych imperative for conformity unify’s all the movements that I referenced.

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        • Cornelius Gotchberg says:

          @AnonyBob;

          “I learn so much from your wordy ramblings.”

          Manfully conceded!

          Now that we have youse on tilt (an occurrence more common with each passing day), a little more Inconvenient Truth.

          Howse about Margaret “How are we to breed a race of human thoroughbreds unless we follow the same plan (birth control/eugenics)?” Sanger. ”We must make this country into a garden of children instead of a disorderly back lot overrun with human weeds?” (bolds mine)

          “Disorderly Back Lot, Human Weeds?” Let’s make a leap of secular faith and assume that wasn’t intended as flattery; gosh, I wonder to whom she might be referring?

          It gets worse.

          She of the “Negro Project,” who cut brush, busted sod, & blazed trail for the concept of a “Master Race” (thoroughbreds) which caught the attention of a failed Austrian artist (who took it up another notch!), believed life began at conception.

          Life beginning at Conception?? How does that square with, like, you know, abortion and “selective breeding?”

          Not too much of a stretch to conclude that some “lives” were more equal than others, am I right?

          Anywho, I reckon none of that matters; the 2009 winner of her eponymous award, none other than Hillarity, was/is “in awe.”

          Oh my Gunny Sacks (H/T @GOOD DOG HAPPY MAN), in awe of virulent racism, inhuman selective breeding, and inhumane forced sterilizations-n-abortions???

          Quite a legacy; Lefty ought be positively beaming, am I right?

          The Gotch

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        • AnonyBob says:

          “Assist.” (eye roll)
          Paine, the problem is you and GLK only see conformity and fanaticism from the left. Take a look at Trump Nation and the now disappeared Grand Old Party. Take a look at Proud Boys and newly energized white nationalists. Listen to the crowd at any Trump rally. Movements of the right also demand conformity. Conservatives are all about conformity.
          Gootch: Got a point? I mean, besides you admiring your wordiness?

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        • Gary L. Kriewald says:

          Bob, I concede every of your points about conformity on the right. But that doesn’t diminish or excuse the same phenomenon on the left, which has a unique talent for seeing the speck in others’ eyes while ignoring the log in its own.

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        • Cornelius Gotchberg says:

          @AnonyBob;

          “Got a point?”

          Sure do, but I now realize I need to meter my message for a mentality that’s struggling to keep up.

          Yer_A_Flaming_Myopic_Hypocrite!!!

          Clear things up, or are things still, in your words, confusing?

          The Gotch

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        • AnonyBob says:

          GLK, we can both agree conformity and fanaticism of either side – left or right – is dangerous. It’s also always harder to see coming from your side than the other’s. Where you see a speck, I see a log, and vice versa.

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        • AnonyBob says:

          Gootch, it’s safe to say your words are confusing. Others would agree, if they bothered reading you.

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  8. Tom Paine says:

    unifies –correction

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  9. Tom Paine says:

    I do not concede that intolerance and fanatical attitudes and actions are distributed equally. There is NO liberal or left force in colleges today who defend FREEDOM of SPEECH.

    Who has a dramatic record of denying free speech and diversity of ideas in higher education? Ans: Only the left. Examples of Coulter, Shapiro, Milo, Peterson, Charles Murray, etc. How many Marxists, Socialists, etc. have been denied freedom of speech on campus in the last decade? None that I know.

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    • Gary L. Kriewald says:

      If we’re speaking strictly about college campuses, then I agree that the left is responsible for 99% (and I’m being generous) of the prevailing fanaticism and intolerance. Colleges have become little more than boot camps for social justice warriors and day care centers for (putative) adults.

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    • AnonyBob says:

      Interesting point, Paine, so I did some googling. Georgetown U’s Free Speech Project found about 60 incidents of restricting speech on campus during 2016 & 2017. The speakers you list accounted for the majority of incidents. Could it be because they were deliberately provocative (e.g. Milo’s “Dangerous Faggot Tour”), which is why conservative student groups invited them and then loudly publicized the resulting mess? But you’re dead wrong that it affects only conservatives. There is a good proportion of leftie faculty being forced to apologize or being fired for political speech. Any restrictions of speech are bad, but 60 incidents, mostly from the same handful of people, in a country with 4500+ campuses, is a manufactured crisis overblown by conservative media and its supporters, like Blaska toward the UW. The left has no equivalent propaganda noise machine like the right has, to publicize speech restrictions that hurt lefties, so I’m not surprised you’re unaware of any.

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      • Tom Paine says:

        BS-Bob— ” Take a look at Trump Nation and the now disappeared Grand Old Party. Take a look at Proud Boys and newly energized white nationalists. Listen to the crowd at any Trump rally. Movements of the right also demand conformity. Conservatives are all about conformity,” Here, you mistake rallies by various collections of non-liberals for the imperative of conformity. There are NO examples where “Trump Nation” has denied freedom of speech to opponents. Second, I call your attention to the diversity within the Rep Party. One doesn’t have to be a member to note Romney-Flake-Corker-McCain ain’t friends or allies of Trump. That is diversity, not the fascist psychology of conformity. WHAT examples do you have where Trumpsters have used violence to suppress speakers on campus?

        You attempt to rationalize suppression of conservatives/libertarians by branding them as “deliberately provocative.” –As my friend at Yale has written, To say you support free speech except for certain opinions is like saying you support same sex marriage, except for lesbians. Once you forget the meaning of freedom and start cherry picking which people or what types of speech might deserve it, free speech ceases to be a right.
        Instead it becomes a privilege, to be extended to those the authorities see fit.
        This is the message of those fashionable sermons about how “rights come with responsibilities”.
        That is just another way of saying that it is not a right at all, but a selective reward for “good” behavior. Rights don’t come with provisos.

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        • AnonyBob says:

          You must’ve missed press coverage of Trump rally protestors beaten by his supporters (at HIS encouragement) – you need news sources besides FOX, the Trump Network – but you really lost me when you got to “diversity” within the party of notoriously white, male and old GOP electeds. Trump’s boorishness finally managed to offend even those you mentioned, but due to CONFORMITY and demands of party loyalty, they timidly only speak when they’re headed out the door. Everyone else lives in fear of being primaried, even if it costs the GOP a seat. Mitt’s term will outlast Trump and he’s probably going to challenge him as Trump becomes further compromised, or impeached, for his many scandals. Yet 88% of Republicans support this obscenity in the White House? THAT’S mindless conformity, even, as you say, the fascistic psychology of conformity.

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        • Tom Paine says:

          BS – Bob,

          I know of one instance in a meeting hall where one Trump protestor was somewhat hassled. Since you dispute that, provide sources. Diversity in the party? OMG — you are slow; Mitt, Corker, McCain, Rubio, Rand Paul, Mike Lee, Collins, Murkowski, Fiorina, and Walker. All different.

          Provide ONE example where a Democratic US Senator attacked or publicly disagreed with Obama. The remainder of your screed is worthy of a reply.

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        • AnonyBob says:

          “Somewhat hassled”? How about sucker punched by a typically low brow Trump nut at a rally when Trump said he’d pay the legal fees of anyone who did it. We all saw it over and over again on TV. The sap who did the punching also learned Trump’s word is no good.
          For GOP opponents, you offer the members that ran against him for the nomination or got nervous over repealing healthcare with no alternative. Weak with a capital W. They’ve spent the rest of their time licking his boots.
          One example of a Senate Dem opposing Obama? Udall opposed bombing ISIS. Landrieu tangled with him constantly over energy policy. Pryor voted against Obama raising the minimum wage. The list goes on. He didn’t demand fealty like wannabe despot Trump does. This is getting weaker and weaker on your end, Paine. What’s the matter, Pelosi as Speaker getting under your skin? Shots of inauguration today showed a Democratic house that looks vibrant on their side of the aisle; full of women, minorities, enthusiasm, color and energy. The GOP? Old. Gray. Male. Which group looks like America? Which is the future? I know which side I’ll take. Trump telegraphed his flop sweat by showing up in the WH press room for the first time today, in a pathetic attempt to get attention. He’s facing two years of being owned by a smart, strategic, powerful woman; his worst nightmare and my delight. I’m relieved for America that we’ll finally get some sunlight on his corruption and ineptitude.
          I assume you meant to say the rest of my “screed” is NOT worth replying to. I figure that means you can’t.

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        • Tom Paine says:

          Bob….you have not answered my questions…………..
          ….examples of natives who want to return to the stone age, as YOU CLAIMED
          ….more than one isolated example of someone in the audience of a Trump rally being hassled
          ….examples of one Democrat who publicly disagreed with the Dim party line or Obama ????? put up, or shut up.

          Pelosi, the Alzheimer’s patient? No worry. An idiot. No Threat. Glad she is a Dim; Trump is bad; Pelosi is a bigger joke. Pleased to know you affirm her blather as positive leadership for the Dims.

          You now have humored us all,
          As to the future………gud luk wid dat. If Blue, then what urban example provides a model for success, happiness, higher employment, fewer drug dealers, fewer criminals and a balanced budget? Or the Economics of AOC? OMG, she can only re-write the banners that have created the contradictions of the Cuban Valhalla.

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        • AnonyBob says:

          Paine, you’re creeping back into Paine In The Ass territory and I’m going to have to go back to calling you PITA. “You have not answered my questions,” you whine, yet I listed 3 Dem senators that publicly broke with Obama on various issues. I think I’ll stop taking requests/instructions/demands from you. You’re also starting to twist my words: I never claimed Native Americans would like to go back to the Stone Age, I said many will tell you they were better off before Columbus – when they owned (figuratively) the entire continent and their population was 10 times larger before their genocide.
          Finally…Pelosi. “Alzheimer’s patient” “idiot” “no threat”. This is going to be SO great to watch her tie Trump in knots because he, like you, has no idea what a legislative leader is and does and how good she is at it. You believed all the Pelosi-horror attack ads Ryan’s PAC ran during the campaigns. You guys are no w going to be poppin’ blood vessels as Trump is exposed and out-played; better stock up on blood pressure meds.

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      • Gary L. Kriewald says:

        So the Right is at fault for sponsoring “provocative” speakers on campus? I thought one of the main purposes of higher education is to challenge beliefs by subjecting them to the rigors of rational analysis. Being provocative is one method of prompting students to examine (or at least begin examining) their beliefs, opinions, ideas. In fact, given the cultural milieu in which today’s college students exist, provocation is just about the only way to get their attention. It would be nice if college were a version of Plato’s Symposium,. where wise elders guide their young charges, through the powers of rational argument and analysis, to see the light of truth and virtue, but instead it’s becoming a moral and intellectual wilderness overseen by spineless and craven administrators and staffed by ideologically blinkered professors intent on brainwashing students into conforming to the anointed political/social gospel of the left. Trust me, I’ve seen it from the inside for four decades, and it’s only getting worse.

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  10. Batman says:

    Pelosi is a cognitively impaired corrupt wet head. Quit covering for her bootlickerbob.

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    • AnonyBob says:

      You have no idea what an effective legislative leader looks like or does (although I can’t blame you, if you thought they’re supposed to be as weak and feckless as Paul Ryan). Pelosi is one of the best. She’s going to completely own him – she’s already doing it. Trump has no idea what he’s doing or what he’s in for. This is going to be SO great to watch.

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      • Cornelius Gotchberg says:

        @AnonyBob;

        “This is going to be SO great to watch.”

        The BEST predictor of future prediction performance is past prediction performance.

        From the AnonyBob Greatest Prediction Performance Anxiety Archives:

        PREDICTION: Kavanaugh withdraws.

        A broken clock is correct twice a day, am I right?

        @AnonyBob? Not so much!

        The Gotch

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  11. Batman says:

    Our Founding Fathers were old gray males who by age ten were far more educated than you will ever be bobo.

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    • AnonyBob says:

      Old gray males at ten years old? Batty, you never make much sense, but this vapid statement about education really makes you sound like an…um, someone not to be taken seriously. Which is why I don’t.

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  12. Batman says:

    Batman concedes being off by roughly 10 years, although even at age 10 our FF’s were considerably better educated then bobo can conceive of. They became old gray males (OGM) later in life just like any other humanoid.
    Perhaps your self loathing as a OGM is influencing your perception.

    “The typical education of the time began in what we would call the 3rd Grade—at about age eight. Students who actually went to school were required to learn Latin and Greek grammar and, later, to read the Latin historians Tacitus and Livy, the Greek historians Herodotus and Thucydides, and to translate the Latin poetry of Virgil and Horace. They were expected to know the language well enough to translate from the original into English and back again to the original in another grammatical tense. Classical Education also stressed the seven liberal arts: Latin, logic, rhetoric (the “trivium”), as well as arithmetic, geometry, astronomy, and music (the “quadrivium”).”

    “Students were also expected in these early years, according to the Harvard College Laws, to be able to translate the Old and New Testaments from the original Greek and Hebrew into Latin. Not only that, but listen to another Harvard requirement of the time: “The scholars shall never use their mother tongue, except that in public exercises of oratory or such like they be called to make them in English.” In other words, with limited exceptions, students were prohibited from using English in class or in class assignments.”

    https://www.memoriapress.com/articles/classical-education-founding-fathers/

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  13. Batman says:

    Erratum:
    Batman concedes being off by roughly 10 years, although even at age 10 our FFs were considerably better educated than bobo can conceive of. They became old gray males (OGM) later in life just like any other humanoid.
    Perhaps your self loathing as a OGM is influencing your perception and comprehension.

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    • AnonyBob says:

      You need tell me all about your classical education, before I bother to feel bad about mine compared to the FFs.
      Self loathing OGM? OMG, I LOVE being an OGM! It’s so freeing to be the cranky old opinionated guy I’ve always been within!

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