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WI liberal Justice calls election litigants ‘un-American’!

Justice Karofsky plays race card

Funny thing about conservative jurists: they read the law and apply the constitution as it was written, not how they wish it written. Justices Gorsuch, Barrett, and Kavanaugh proved it Friday 12-11-20 in turning down the Texas challenge to the results in four states, including ours. At the state level, so has Justice Brian Hagedorn proven his fair and impartial jurisprudence.

Then there are liberal activists posing as judges, like Wisconsin Supreme Court Justice Jill Karofsky. Her performance Saturday 12-12-20 during oral argument in Donald J. Trump v. Joseph R. Biden was disgraceful. It reminds us of Chuck Chvala at his partisan worst — only not as intelligent.

“This lawsuit, Mr. Troupis, smacks of racism, and I do not know how you can come before this court and possibly ask us for a remedy that is unheard of in American history,” Karofsky said. “This is not normal.”

Karofsky could not understand why the plaintiff, President Trump, would challenge the conduct of Wisconsin’s election after the election. Trump attorney Jim Troupis patiently explained that there would have been no injury to his client before an election — nor any after a flawed election had he prevailed. (In any event, some of those last-minute changes WERE challenged.)

Trump’s case in Wisconsin (very much simplified) was that black letter law on how to conduct an election was tucked and trimmed pretty much on the fly, with the Covid pandemic as the rationale. For instance, many absentee ballots lacked the obligatory proof of identity under the rubric of “indefinitely confined.” Allowing votes to be harvested in “Democracy in the Park” locales early, before the statutory early voting period began or at  the clerk’s office where there is presumed to be more security.

“The statues are in place because if you do not follow these provisions there is [the presumption of] fraud,” Troupis explained.

Poor judicial temperament

Karofsky went well beyond jurisprudential skepticism into partisan polemic. Toward the end of one hour and 37 minutes of oral arguments, she launched into a tirade more suited to a rabble-rousing politician than a supreme court jurist. Our transcription: 

I cannot believe you are going to accuse our fellow Wisconsinites of engaging in fraud in this election. The people of Wisconsin should be thanked for exercising their civic duty … to vote. … We should be thanking  them, we should be thanking the election workers, the poll workers, and the canvass workers and local officials who soldiered on during a global pandemic. In this state we accept the will of the voters and they spoke. For you to come forward today and throw out allegations of fraud with zero evidence! [she trailed off.]

What is America? … It is not governance from a king. You want us to overturn this election so that your king can stay in power and that is so un-American.  For you to say anyone in Wisconsin engaged in fraud … for you to perpetuate that fallacy … in what has been called the most significant election in our life time, is nothing short of shameful.

Troupis countered: “I believe this country was founded on the principle of the rule of law. When we forget the rule of law when we forget to enforce mandatory statutes we have lost our freedom.”

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46 responses to “WI liberal Justice calls election litigants ‘un-American’!”

  1. richard lesiak Avatar
    richard lesiak

    Maybe her comment was based on the fact that only Dane Co. and Milw. Co .were targeted. The home of many Dems and Minorities. You got a problem with Wis.; then count all of the state. Cherry-picking counties is pure BS. Ashland is home to Northland Collage. Liberal with plenty of minorities. Why not count those votes over and over and over. After all these failed attempts at trying to prove fraud I can see these judges getting pi$$ed off. Time to sanction Rudy and his clown show?

    1. Dick Woodson Avatar
      Dick Woodson

      Actually, the main argument by the prosecution – the illegal Voting in the Park, did not occur statewide. THAT campaign was geared towards cities with the highest number of minorities. The campaign itself was illegal and racist!!

      1. richard lesiak Avatar
        richard lesiak

        The Park was only one of countless suits that were tossed in the trash by judges all over the country.

      2. Larsen E. Whipsnade Avatar
        Larsen E. Whipsnade

        Voting In The Park was organized by and paid for by the Biden people. The advertisements I heard for it on radio beforehand specifically stated that it was It was an event pushed and staffed by City officials and volunteers they had trained. But, then Biden’s voice came on at the end of the commercial said it was paid for and approved by him. I know for a fact from young people who participated in it that it was viewed by them as a Biden event. That’s a bit sleazy by the City to push it as a partisan public event. But, it’s OK to cheat if its our side, right–by any means necessary?

  2. dad29 Avatar

    as it was written, not how they wish it written. Justices Gorsuch, Barrett, and Kavanaugh proved it Friday 12-11-20 in turning down the Texas challenge to the results in four states, including ours. At the state level, so has Justice Brian Hagedorn proven his fair and impartial jurisprudence.

    Belling has been calling for the Repubican Party to close up its Madistan HQ and move to Wausau, or West Bend…….you get the idea.

    Frankly, it’s stuff like the above quote which put him on that path.

  3. Good Dog,Happy Man Avatar
    Good Dog,Happy Man

    Karofsky is a Lefty, that’s all you need to know. It’s in their playbook, “Rules For Radicals”:
    Personalize it, ignore inconvenient truths, blame the opposition and accuse us of doing what they’re doing. If all else fails call everyone a racist and run away.

    Sorry, Lefty, … that dog don’t hunt. Your race card has been denied.
    Do you have any other form of argument?

    1. richard lesiak Avatar
      richard lesiak

      Explain that thinking to all the right-wing judges (like the 3 trump appointed) that told Rudy to take a hike.

    2. Liberty Avatar
      Liberty

      Yep, they’ve studied Saul Alinsky’s work quite well, haven’t they?

  4. Larsen E. Whipsnade Avatar
    Larsen E. Whipsnade

    I listened to the arguments and questioning on Saturday. “Certain” judges really stunned me by how openly biased and hostile they are to Trump’s people. It violates the code of judicial ethics. They sounded more like partisans on the attack rather than objective jurists. Who can (or who “will”) call out and discipline the Supremes? Certainly not the governor, not the legislature of squishes, not the press. This is very sad and very frightening.

    1. Alfred E Neuman Avatar
      Alfred E Neuman

      Written in a completely biased manner.

      1. Cornelius Gotchberg Avatar
        Cornelius Gotchberg

        “Written in a completely biased manner.”

        Lawdy Lawdy Lawdy! The deeply viscid irony through which you had to slog to type that!

        The Gotch

        1. richard lesiak Avatar
          richard lesiak

          A little slog is far better than the stupid, insulting trash you post.

    2. richard lesiak Avatar
      richard lesiak

      The “squishes haven’t met since March. Are they collecting unemployment? Covid? F#$king us over? My money is on the last one.

  5. sentient7 Avatar

    There are men who are as ignert as judge jill (lower case since she deserves no respect). However, judge jill is a manifestation of the co-joined rise of “emotional reasoning” and the axiom that women who attain positions of power, necessarily exhibit wisdom or logic.

    Emotion reasoning is a non-sequitur. judge jill’s display reminds me of 3rd-graders who “know” more than their parents; her knowledge mirrors that of congressman Hank Johnson (Guam is not about to tip-over).

    Logic and actions of the lynch mobs are democratic, but the victim is not necessarily guilty.

    1. Gary Kriewald Avatar
      Gary Kriewald

      judge jill, a Madison liberal from central casting, can only squawk “Racism!” like a demented parrot because that’s what Madison liberals substitute for rational argument. And “emotional reasoning,” like systemic racism or restorative justice, is a made-up, harebrained piece of claptrap that leftists use to disguise their utter intellectual vacuity.

      1. Liberty Avatar
        Liberty

        Preach it, Gary.

      2. Alfred E Neuman Avatar
        Alfred E Neuman

        So why did the trump campaign pick the two counties with highest percentage of other than white population to sue?

        1. Daniel Wood Avatar
          Daniel Wood

          Because these counties had the illegal and racist Democracy in the park

    2. richard lesiak Avatar
      richard lesiak

      “Mobs”?? Like the trump supporters tearing down signs and setting them on fire in DC? Like the stabb9ings? Like the shootings in Washington State? “Stand down Be Ready” Thanks trump; you dink.

  6. Iam Pistoff Avatar
    Iam Pistoff

    “…partisan polemic[ist]”… “Poor judicial temperament”… No Sh!t, Sherlock!

    Further proof of the certifiably ineducable, brain-dead electorate installing those having eclipsed their highest level of incompetence to positions of deliberative responsibility, all via “by-the-book”
    election law, polling locales, and scrupulously validated LEGAL [seriously…right?] ballots .
    The Truth and all attendant realities will not, like a gassing corpse or high-lipid turd, remain buried/submerged/suppressed indefinitely.

    Sooner than later, even the irretrievably somnambulant will recognize “the giant, sucking sound” [credit – Ross Perot] of this collapsing, corrupted “steaming pile” exiting via Mr. Crapper’s conduit to chaos.

  7. Alfred E Neuman Avatar
    Alfred E Neuman

    Well aren’t they? Especially in the case brought by the indicted Texas AG. Seeking to overturn the constitutionally proclaimed will of the people, and overturn a legal, secure election is indeed not only unamerican, it’s treason. Of course the namby-pamby Dems are only calling for the 126 congressman and 1 senator to not be seated, i say as we are in a never ending “war on terror” , let the penalty for treason in time of war playout.

    1. Batman Avatar
      Batman

      A vote for illegitimate jo and the kameltoe is a vote to rush towards the surrender of the USA to the globalist elites, ergo treason, ergo unamerican unpatriotic alfie must adhere to his own suggested punishment and place the noose himself, if he’s man enough.

      1. Alfred E Neuman Avatar
        Alfred E Neuman

        Exactly what is illegitimate about Biden?, as for your reference to kameltoe, I’d expect such behavior from a lowlife supporter of a self proclaimed misogynist. I’m man enough to accept the results of the “will of the people” and have no reason to compensate for my manhood by gathering together with those of little hands.

        1. Batman Avatar
          Batman

          Unhinged a little Alfie?
          Felonious demonrats demonstrated the acceptable (to Lefys like you) low bar of the illegitimacy charge but go back and review the primary thrust of my comment that you did not dispute so you get credit for that. When will you be accepting your punishment for treason?

        2. richard lesiak Avatar
          richard lesiak

          You know you have them on the ropes when they start calling you names. That’s all they got. No facts. Like a little kid on the playground; insults and then run to mommy.

        3. Alfred E Neuman Avatar
          Alfred E Neuman

          Can’t answer the question, but resort to name calling. Did you even try to justify your statement to yourself? As for thr crutch of your statement, Isn’t that why republican fools are claiming the election is a fraud, because that’s the exact type of behavior we’ve seen from them in 2000 and again in 2016? I didn’t mention it because it should be common knowledge.

      2. georgessson Avatar

        Bats, Good points all the way ’round. Kamala’s record in CA belies her current BLM support. And Joe? Other than Alfie and Richard, who doesn’t sniff a scent of corruption, RE: Hunter ?

        RE: Scent —Alf and Richie spend way more time thinkin’ about the Gotch’s derriere and young girls to be taken seriously. My apologies to the Gotch fer the involvement in Richard’s unseemly post/reply a few days ago. Apropos, Richard is simply an ass.

        BTW, kameltoe is a great term ! Succinct yet provides substance as to how she got where she is…

        1. richard lesiak Avatar
          richard lesiak

          young girls? an ass? how trumpy of you.

        2. Batman Avatar
          Batman

          Gson,
          Alf likes to ask questions but doesn’t answer those presented to him and that is why Batman treats him like the common troll that he is.

          For example, the troll asks “Exactly what is illegitimate about Biden?”

          Batman will answer your question Alf after you explain why Trump is a “fascist” as you parroted recently.
          Crickets…

        3. Liberty Avatar
          Liberty

          “Alf likes to ask questions but doesn’t answer those presented to him…”

          Yep, that’s been my experience with him and other libs. That’s because their arguments are based on emotion, and emotions can’t be backed up with reason. They don’t know how to think aside from what the ruling class tells them to think.

          Dick, Alfie, Ravensoaks, AnonyBob and others on here? Pffft, irrelevant. I usually just scroll down when I see their tripe.

        4. A Voice in the Wilderness Avatar
          A Voice in the Wilderness

          Georgessson: “…Kamala’s record in CA belies her current BLM support.” VP-ELECT Harris was a tough prosecutor at a time when CA had a huge crime wave and surging crack epidemic. I thought you righties appreciated a little law and order.

        5. madisonexpat Avatar
          madisonexpat

          poor richard would never call anyone a bad name.

        6. Cornelius Gotchberg Avatar
          Cornelius Gotchberg

          AVitW; VP-ELECT KamelHo incarcerated ~ 1500 bruthahs for weed and later GIGGLED as she confessed to using it herself, AND kept inmates beyond their release date in order to provide CHEAP LABOR for the Land of Fruit Cakes and Nut Cases .

          PURE RAYCIST SCUM!

          The Gotch

      3. richard lesiak Avatar
        richard lesiak

        Just who are these “globalist elites” you keep speaking of. Names please. Or are you just repeating what Hannity is shoving up your kazoo.

      4. Liberty Avatar
        Liberty

        Preach it, Batman!

        1. richard lesiak Avatar
          richard lesiak

          So what do you think of your proud boys and trump supporters now. Roaming DC looking for fights, people stabbed, at least 8 police officers injured. I think they all suck gotch ass. You? Let’s hear all about the BLM protests now.

    2. richard lesiak Avatar
      richard lesiak

      When trump gives Paxton his pardon all will be made clear.

      1. dad29 Avatar

        Richie-Poo: I send the Proud Boys $500.00/year to support their efforts. When asked, I also send spare ammo, usually .223. Any other questions?

        Finished your donuts for tomorrow yet??

        1. richard lesiak Avatar
          richard lesiak

          Are you sending ammo through the US Postal Service?

        2. Alfred E Neuman Avatar
          Alfred E Neuman

          Where the hell do you find any .223, I need more for my mini-14? Yes, another question.

  8. richard lesiak Avatar
    richard lesiak

    Chant at rightwing trump rally; “Destroy the GOP.” I’m starting to like these guys.

  9. Bill Avatar
    Bill

    So let me get this straight.

    So according to judge jill, it is because Dane and Milwaukee Counties have a higher representation of African Americans than the rest of the state, that Judge Jim Troupis, and yes he has been a Judge, is racist for pointing out that both Dane and Milwaukee Counties and in particular the City of Madison and Milwaukee had a higher number of indefinitely confined voters resulting in more absentee ballots and that Madison allowed 2 “Democracy in the Park Days”.

    Consider this that comes from the Wisconsin Department of Health Services
    https://www.dhs.wisconsin.gov/minority-health/population/afriamer-pop.htm

    “Nearly 90 percent of Wisconsin’s African American population lives in the following six counties, all of which are located in Southeastern or Southern Wisconsin: Milwaukee, Dane, Racine, Kenosha, Rock, and Waukesha. When looking at African Americans as a percent of the total county population, Milwaukee County tops this list, with 25.6 percent.”

    One might ask the question: Why was it not racist for the Mayors of other large communities on the list with a higher representation of African Americans not to have “Democracy in the Park Days” as well?

    Since Milwaukee County has a higher representation of African Americans, was it was racist of the Mayor of Milwaukee not to have his own “Democracy in the Park Days”? The exact same could be said for the Mayor of Racine and the Mayor of Kenosha all of which are DEMOCRATS!

    Just wondering.

    And according to her logic, Menominee County, which has the highest minority population of 88.4% should have allowed for voters to say they were indefinitely confined so they could have a higher number of absentee ballots and they should have also had their own “Democracy in the Park Days”. Which they did not!

  10. Batman Avatar
    Batman

    Gotch,
    Your description of kameltoe as PURE RAYCIST SCUM while accurate doesn’t quite tell the whole story as it is common knowledge within her inner circle that she always sports custom made knee-pads just in case…

    1. richard lesiak Avatar
      richard lesiak

      prove your statement.

    2. Cornelius Gotchberg Avatar
      Cornelius Gotchberg

      Caped Crusader, looks like you’ve irked a knee-pad user…

      The Gotch

  11. georgessson Avatar
    georgessson

    Richard, AKA Dick…. “young girls? an ass? how trumpy of you.”

    Yer response was especially weak here. Unsurprisingly, aren’t they all ?

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