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‘It is reasonable for them to use force’

Chicago police chief says of I.C.E.

Just to be safe

In a recent thrilling episode, The Werkes neither condemned Mizz Renee Good for being shot to death during an illegal immigrant roundup in “mostly peaceful” Minneapolis nor did we exonerate the federal immigration agent who dispatched her. But we did suggest the poor woman was fatally foolish for putting herself in harm’s way.

→ “Renee Good fought the law and the law won”

Which didn’t register with Woke-indoctrinated public high school students here in Madison WI who cut class and made noise yesterday in the state capitol. As required study (had Blaska’s election to the school board not been stolen), The Werkes wheels into their classrooms our Bell & Howell film projector to screen a remedial ed video. It features Chicago Police Superintendent Larry Snelling delivering a civics lesson to student and unionized teacher, alike:

“Federal agents, I.C.E. and H.S.I. [Homeland Security Investigations] are officers, they are agents of law enforcement. If you box them in with vehicles it is reasonable to believe they are being ambushed and it is reasonable for them to use force.”

“Do not box in any law enforcement officer! You are breaking the law when you do that and you are putting yourself in danger. Following law enforcement agents around … what do you plan on doing? It is reasonable for them to believe that you are going to do harm to them. If you ram any vehicle — especially one that contains law enforcement … this is considered deadly force. … And they can use deadly force in response to stop you. We need to be clear about these laws. … You may not like what they are doing … but that does not mean you get to commit a crime, especially one that could lead to deadly force. … We do not interfere with the duties and responsibilities of federal agents.” — Chicago Police Superintendent Larry Snelling

Around & about

• Seeing a letter to Mr. Ed in this morning’s daily (except Mondays) fish wrap calling for the return of the Upper Peninsula to Wisconsin. The timing is right, given Trump’s preoccupation with Greenland. The Werkes were there first: “Let’s invade Michigan’s Upper Peninsula! Now, while we’ve got the muscle!”

• That Ford factory worker who taunted Trump has NO right of free speech — not on company time on the company floor.

• Now that the President has signed the “Whole Milk for Healthy Children Act,” we anticipate the “Chocolate Cake with Gooey Frosting for Happy Adults Act.” Seriously, remember when we weren’t supposed to eat eggs? The science (contrary to progressives) is never settled.

• The Werkes mourns the passing of John Kavanaugh. His Esquire Club on Madison’s NE side was/is a welcoming home for advocates of all political philosophies. A rarity in this town. Mighty good fish fry and Manhattan, too!

Blaska’s Bottom Line: Chicago’s chief of police will save more lives than Madison’s truant high school virtue signalers. But don’t blame the kids; they’re victims of Paul Fanlund’s UniParty.

How culpable is the mayor of Minneapolis?
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17 responses to “‘It is reasonable for them to use force’”

  1. Steve Avatar
    Steve

    “The science is never settled”?? Well, when was the last time you saw apples falling up? The sun standing still? Anything exceeding the speed of light? The earth going in reverse? An animal surviving forever? Or Blaska being elected?

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  2. pioneering609d4d5a89 Avatar
    pioneering609d4d5a89

    John Kavanaugh was a great human being, I hope his legacy continues through his family. It is truly an oasis in a city of culinary chaos. May God bless his gentle soul.

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  3. One Eye Avatar
    One Eye

    I watched channel 15’s coverage of the student walkout and of course they interviewed the idiot girl doing her best impression of a beauty pageant contestant explaining how she’d create world peace.

    Just once I wish they’d interview one of the kids who chose to stay in class and continue to learn.

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    1. Gary L. Kriewald Avatar
      Gary L. Kriewald

      Check out an article in this week’s Cap Times purporting to explain the exodus from Madison’s public schools, most of which is devoted to hand-wringing over why most of the rats deserting this sinking ship are white. Not once did the finger of blame point to teachers of the sort who undoubtedly aided and abetted the walkout and probably gave extra credit to anyone participating. When you have a school system that values “social justice” (i.e., progressive shibboleths) over subjects with actual content, it should come as no surprise that parents who know the difference between education and indoctrination opt to pull their kids out of MMSD.

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      1. Alex Avatar
        Alex

        Ah yes, the old ‘teachers are indoctrinators’ chestnut. MMSD has plenty of problems—administrative bloat, achievement gaps, facility costs—but blaming the walkout on extra credit is the kind of thinking that makes serious school reform harder, not easier.

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        1. Gary L. Kriewald Avatar
          Gary L. Kriewald

          To clarify, all your criticisms of MMSD are valid and well documented–as are criticisms of its teachers and teachers union. Reform can have more than one target. Is it really that difficult to imagine Madison teachers cheering the walkout? After all, that means they get a day off, too. And if there’s one thing teachers need, it’s another day off.

      2. David Blaska Avatar
        David Blaska

        Not only that but what was the DISCREPANCY between white and black kids being pulled out of Madison schools? All of 8 percentage points! Hardly a two for one! The study was done under the aegis of a UW-Madison sociology prof, so (of course) it proved Racism Most Foul!

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      3. richard V Lesiak Avatar
        richard V Lesiak

        undoubtably ? prove it.

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  4. Alex Avatar
    Alex

    Dave, fine. Play stupid games, win stupid prizes is usually sound advice. But your analysis skips some inconvenient frames: the ones showing Good’s vehicle virtually stationary when the agent opened fire through her windshield, and the shooter standing to the side of the car, out of its path, when he fired the first shot.
    Chicago Superintendent Snelling is right that boxing in law enforcement is dangerous and illegal. But “reasonable force” has limits. A trained federal agent standing clear of a stopped or barely moving Honda is not facing the same threat as the Waukesha parade crowd did from Darrell Brooks doing 30+ mph through a barricade.

    The legal standard isn’t “the officer felt scared.” It’s whether a reasonable officer would believe deadly force was necessary to prevent imminent death or serious bodily harm. If you’re not in the vehicle’s path when you pull the trigger, that’s a hard argument to make. Video evidence matters, and what’s publicly available doesn’t show a vehicle accelerating into anyone — it shows an agent firing into a windshield at near point-blank range from a position of safety.

    The feds say the agent was hospitalized for “internal bleeding.” I’d like to see his medical records. Based on the videos, my guess is ulcers.

    If Good’s killing was a reasonable use of force, then January 6 should have been a bloodbath. Capitol Police showed far more restraint facing an actual mob than this agent showed facing a cheery middle‑aged woman in a Honda.

    You rightly condemn the ghoul who posted the bloody airbag photo. Turn that same lens on whether this shooting was justified under actual use‑of‑force standards — not just “don’t mess with armed feds” common sense.

    Good may have been foolish. That doesn’t make her killing lawful.

    And yes — let’s raise a glass to John Kavanaugh. He was a good man, and the Esquire Club is a home away from home for all of us.

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    1. David Blaska Avatar
      David Blaska

      Not my analysis, Alex. The police chief of Chicago. Mizz Good inserted herself into a live law enforcement operation. Her obvious intention was to impede the police. At this, she succeeded (momentarily). We can second guess the I.C.E. agent as Brandi Grayson and Shadayra Kilfoy-Flores do over the Tony Robinson Jr. killing. It may be that he broke protocol. (The internal bleeding was likely bruising.) Do you really believe the I.C.E. agent shot Mizz Good in cold blood? And yes, the Capitol Police lieutenant who shot Ashli Babbitt was fully justified in doing so.

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      1. richard V Lesiak Avatar
        richard V Lesiak

        My two sons and families live right there. I trust their reports to me more than your guesswork and trumpy commentary. Why are these so-called agents knocking in doors asking people where the Asians are? Ice should go back to 34th and Portland then drive 2 miles east. Lake and George Floyd Ave. Those boys will welcome them with open arms. Big, loaded arms. Busting down doors, shooting people, chemicals, is this your so-called “Standard?” Trump said he won the state three times. Do YOU believe that? Even Joe Rogan has had it with Donny’s BS. The real STANDARDS you should be worried about are the ones that let agents who can’t pass a physical test, a written test (open book no less) and have records end up armed and running wild in the streets. I guess that’s the price for being a blue state. Go ahead and send in troops, but on the condition that all ICE leave the state.

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        1. Gary L. Kriewald Avatar
          Gary L. Kriewald

          I wonder if Minneapolis authorities have put up the “Renee Good Avenue” sign yet. Or are they waiting for the mostly peaceful protestors to burn down a few city blocks first?

    2. Alex Saloutos Avatar
      Alex Saloutos

      Dave, I didn’t say cold-blooded. I said unjustified. Panicked, poorly trained, or just wrong, take your pick.

      Who’s “we”? I’m not second-guessing anything. I’m looking at the video. That’s not second-guessing. That’s called evidence.

      Nice deflection bringing up Grayson and Kilfoy-Flores. It doesn’t answer the question: was the shooting justified?

      “It may be that he broke protocol.” That’s a polite way of saying she may have been murdered. Now that’s progress.

      And you don’t know Good’s motives. You’re assuming she inserted herself to block law enforcement. The video shows ICE vehicles swarming in behind her after she’d been boxed in for several minutes, and waving vehicles to pass her. Maybe she was trying to get out of the way. You’re guessing. I’m watching the tape.

      “Internal bleeding was likely bruising.” So the injury claim is bullshit. Apply that same skepticism to the shooting itself. Maybe a few of the thugs he works with beat the shit out of him when they left the scene for his boneheaded move.

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      1. David Blaska Avatar
        David Blaska

        Alex! Your reading comprehension needs some work. Where did I say the poor deluded woman’s shooting was justified? Did I not say at the outset:

        We neither condemned Mizz Renee Good for being shot to death during an illegal immigrant roundup in “mostly peaceful” Minneapolis nor did we exonerate the federal immigration agent who dispatched her. But we did suggest the poor woman was fatally foolish for putting herself in harm’s way.

        And no, Renee Good was not murdered any more than the Capitol Police murdered Ashli Babbitt during the Insurrection of J6.

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        1. Alex Avatar
          Alex

          OK, Dave. Your post reads like an argument that justifies her shooting without saying the words. You cited Snelling. You compared her to Brooks, Robinson, Brown, and Babbitt. You blamed “the self-righteous Left” for her death. You called her a “vigilante” who “accelerated into the officer.” That looks like a verdict with plausible deniability. Such sophistry.

        2. David Blaska Avatar
          David Blaska

          You want black & white. Ones and zeroes. This ain’t it.

  5. Anonymous Avatar
    Anonymous

    If there will be an investigation of this murder, I wonder what toxicology reports on Jonathan Ross could reveal.

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