Former mayor Cieslewicz: city leaders hamstring police; ignore fire-bombing

Former mayor Dave Cieslewicz can’t believe Satya and the Progressive Dane city council either. Excerpted from his post on Isthmus:

Just as I hope that Leo Burt is one day brought to justice, I hope the same for those who bombed the City County Building. Pictures of people of interest can be found here.

But what I wonder is, why doesn’t anyone in local government seem to share my outrage over this? Is the Madison city council righteously angry over an act that could have torched the very building they work in? No, instead they’re focused on trying to hamstring the Madison police, the very people who are working to track down those responsible. They’re currently in the process of creating a “police monitor,” which would, in my view at least, unnecessarily duplicate the citizen oversight that already exists in the Police and Fire Commission.

It’s a slippery slope. One could argue that the increasingly militant actions and rhetoric of the anti-war movement set the stage for Sterling Hall.  … Today it’s a plausible argument that irresponsible actions and the rhetoric of elements of the current movement are doing the same.

For example, while responsible community voices were trying to draw a line between peaceful protests and the looting of State Street, M. Adams of Freedom Inc. was quoted as saying, “Stop murdering Black people and your glass will be safe.”

The implication, apparently, is that if a Black man is murdered by a Minneapolis cop it’s okay for people to loot businesses in Madison. It’s exactly the same non sequitur as the Madison liberal argument that killing an innocent man in Sterling Hall had anything at all to do with what was going on in Vietnam. Source: “No more Sterling Halls” – Isthmus | Madison, Wisconsin

Blaska’s Bottom Line: Dave Cieslewicz, do what you know needs to be done.  Call publicly for the Recall of Mayor Satya Rhodes Conway.

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23 Responses to Former mayor Cieslewicz: city leaders hamstring police; ignore fire-bombing

  1. Cornelius Gotchberg says:

    If Über Lefty Mayor BikeShorts is calling out the staggeringly hypocritical stupidity of the 77 Square Miles Surrounded By A Sea Of Reality, they best take heed!!

    The Gotch,

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  2. Mark 78 says:

    I really don’t think logic is going to work on the Progressive Dane mindset. You cannot reason people out of something they were not reasoned into in the first place. It’s not worth anyone’s time to debate between incompatible value systems. Without agreement on what truth means, and thus how honesty is measured, then it’s just dog barking.

    Still I’m amused that proud progressive Cieslewicz is questioning the progressive left. I speculate he views the current situation as counterproductive to “Perfecting the places we live and protecting the places we don’t”.

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    • Cornelius Gotchberg says:

      “I really don’t think logic is going to work on the Progressive Dane mindset.”

      Mercy me, Mark 78; were there a Pulitzer Prize for Gross Understatement of an Undeniable Truth, The Gotch would say dust off’n a place on your mantel!

      The Gotch

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      • richard lesiak says:

        Gee; we are tired of all the gun violence. Answer; some gun control. Oh hell no. No one will ever give us gun control laws. We are tired of all the gun violence. Rinse and repeat. Idiots.

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        • Sheppy says:

          There you go again Richard, blah blah blah gun control blah blah blah……we have gun control laws in place already. I and many others have asked you several times whether you believe the thugs shooting up our streets and homes obtained their guns legally, I don’t recall ever seeing your response. Did they walk into Cabela’s or another gun store and purchase the guns? I think when you say gun control you mean that any guns should be illegal no matter who owns them.

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        • georgessson says:

          Richard-May-I-Call-Ya-Dick, I think you’ve been runnin’ yer donuts thru the glazin’ device overly often. As Shep says, just what part of “criminals will always have guns” don’cha understand.

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        • Cornelius Gotchberg says:

          Sheppy-n-g’ss…COPY DAT!!!

          The Gotch

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    • Liberty says:

      Well said, Mark. Agreed.

      Nice that Cieslewicz is questioning the actions of the left, but then he calls the recall efforts inappropriate.

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  3. georgessson says:

    I applauded Mayor Dave on his stance -Isthmus hid the comment, tho eventually it showed up…. At any rate, Cieslewicz correctly echoes Blaska’s MUCH earlier posts.

    Today? https://isthmus.com/opinion/opinion/is-madison-ready-to-prioritize-people-over-property/

    Wow, this mean-spirited lass has conflated everything into her Isthmus rant -including the kitchen sink. Apparently no-one on State Street deserves any relief from the un-asked-for looting, property damage and loss of patronage…. A 41% of minority biz’ means nada, ZIP, zed.

    When State Street is a dismal empty place, those city revenues dry up. Hence fewer bucks for “social change”. However, Freedom Inc, Urban Triage snag 100’s of thousands (if not millions in the aggregate) for their bitter rancor towards a community that is struggling.

    Good Lord…

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    • Batman says:

      I read/skimmed the letter and generally speaking:
      So the idea is to wreak havoc on people and property in the name of racial equity/justice some of which must take the form of a percentage of State St./downtown businesses to be designated black entrepreneurs only, not unlike affirmative action.
      Okay, let’s go with that and observe how many black business owners step up to take on the responsibility of uber-inflated rent because of the desired location even with tax payer assistance.

      Cops voted out of schools now, let’s observe how that goes.

      Kaleem Caire and many others in *the movement* consistently bemoan the dearth of good paying jobs, and I assume they mean for POC and more specifically their black brothers and sisters. Ever notice how non-specific that hackneyed cry out is? Is that done on purpose as a means to hoodwink naïve guilt soaked white folks into thinking black people are unfairly denied entry into the middle class?

      How many young black people in Madison are trained, in the process of being trained, or possess the necessary skills and discipline to obtain and flourish in demanding high paying jobs? The vast majority of good secure high paying jobs are either white or blue collar. White collar jobs generally require a STEM degree and blue collar require apprenticeship or votech training both of which are readily available in Madison and most decent size cities. A hard working resourceful plumber or electrician in Madison can make six figures and there is a ton of work out there.

      So what exactly do those who continue to demand more jobs more jobs ad-nauseum really mean?

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      • sentient7 says:

        Batman……….. many good points. I’ll only add: if general academic preparation in K12 accounts for only 10-20% of the black community, why would anyone think there are a dearth of well-paying jobs for people who have trouble making the correct change at McD’s? To ask the question is to answer it. Only folks who can’t understand why there is such a wealth gap……………are the very people who never did well enough in school to TRULY understand the question, aka the victim class.

        Future discussion with them is pointless. They will NEVER understand.

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      • Alfred E. Nueman says:

        If indeed police are required in schools, why does MMSD have to pay them? Isn’t it a part of their duty to community?

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  4. Liberty says:

    Yet not too long ago he said recalling Satya was inappropriate. So it’s ok to complain or pen an article but not acceptable to do a recall?

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  5. Bill says:

    Folks I’m sitting here getting ready to go to work and watching some clips from Citizen Free Press. https://www.citizenfreepress.com/breaking/watch-live-black-lies-protests-across-usa/.

    I got to thinking. What would happen to ANY of these IDIOTS if they did the same thing in marxist regimes that currently exist in the world today?

    One might ask would the Police be told to stand down, would troops not be called in, would authorities allow the kind of destruction we have seen in Kenosha and Madison and other communities all across this country if these same things happened in marxist regimes like:
    1. China
    2. North Korea
    3. Laos
    4. Viet Nam
    5. Cuba

    Do you think that the Police and military forces in those countries would show anywhere near the restraint that they show in our country?

    I think not!

    In those countries, just to assemble peacefully to seek a redress of grievances from the government would be considered a crime punishable by a long term in a labor camp or death.

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    • Liberty says:

      “Do you think that the Police and military forces in those countries would show anywhere near the restraint that they show in our country?”

      Great points, Bill.

      The leftists that praise communism haven’t a stinking clue as to how oppressive that form of government is.

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      • Batman says:

        Part of academia’s indoctrination is teaching that China is a superior benevolent country and a friend of America. Of course what isn’t mentioned is Tiananmen Square.

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      • Cornelius Gotchberg says:

        “The leftists that praise communism haven’t a stinking clue as to how oppressive that form of government is.”

        It’s THIS that puts the USEFUL in USEFUL IDIOTS!

        The Gotch

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  6. Ted says:

    Madison is reaping the fruit of what Democrat leaders like Dave has sowed liberally through the years so I don’t care much for what he has to say now.

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  7. patrickmoloughlin says:

    Dave likes to be the one who closes the barn door after the cows have long departed. He said not a word when The Squire and I were being swarmed and labeled white supremacists at school board meetings. He made no disparaging remarks about the radicals running for the board while promising to remove the cops from the high schools. No endorsements or even criticism during or after the elections. When did he chime in? Right after it was a done deal. The day after the contract was voided he meekly suggested it was a bad idea. Not bad enough to vote for a conservative mind you, but it made him really sad.

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  8. jimydandy says:

    Poor CheezeWhiz

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  9. Bill says:

    Oh, and another thought on that subject. One must not forget the willing apparatchiks in the press who have had a big hand in fomenting the kind of unrest, riots and destruction that is present in this country. I might ask the members of the press in this country just what do they think will happen when their dream of the marxist utopia comes to fruition?

    Do they think that they will have full reign to criticize the government and those in power the way they do now?
    Do they think that they will be allowed to print or say whatever they want to print or say about members of government or the leadership itself?
    Do they know that in North Korea for example, when one criticizes the government or the leadership it is not only the person who did the criticizing, but the parents of that person as well as their spouse and their children who will all be arrested, be tortured, be sent to a labor camp and or be executed for what the they wrote or said. (The North Koreans have a 3 generation rule. They not only punish the person but their spouse, their parents and their children.)

    When you are a “journalist” in a marxist regime you write or say EXACTLY what those in power tell you to write or say. Otherwise you DIE!

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