Kids for a kinder & gentler (and less murderous) nation

The music of New Glarus WI grows healthy people

Five motorcyclists in our Meet Up group led by former Dane County circuit judge Mark Frankel took a day trip Sunday to the village of New Glarus, “America’s Little Switzerland.” First stop was Puempel’s tavern, little changed since 1893, for a cold and fresh New Glarus beer (brewed just up the road) and a limburger & onion sandwich (on rye bread, of course). Duly fortified, we rode County Hwy O northwest of the village to the grounds of [Wilhelm] Tell Shooting Barn, where the massive limbs of an ancient oak tree shaded us from the August heat.

Four Green County alphorns — those impossibly long horns one hears in the Ricola commercials — announced the start of Volksfest 2019, a celebration of Swiss music and customs. (Missed seeing one of those customs, something called “musical coin rolling,” performed by the Jodlerklub.) 

 

We did enjoy the New Glarus Kinderchor, or “children’s choir.” Holly Lague directed about two dozen little ones dressed in their canton Glarus best— none older than 15 years, it appeared — with husband Kevin on accordion. This aging easy rider was especially taken by a little fellow, front row on the right end, who could not have been much older than three. Held on tight to his sippy cup, never sang a German word, seemed focused solely on mom in the audience. Only toward the end of the performance did the little Schweizer perform a dip as called for by the stage directions — well out of step with the other children but he’s in there.

As Mr. Lague explained later at the beer & brat stand, the little fellow is absorbing the music of his community — that music being not only the notational. What Lincoln called the mystic chords of memory.

A deadly emptiness at the center

Now, gentle reader, pardon an abrupt pivot on our Moto Guzzi V7 but we’re getting closer to the destination. Inasmuch as the proprietors of the Policy Werkes attempt to remain current, we feel compelled to address the carnage of the weekend. The peculiar things about these mass shootings is that there were two of them within 24 hours in widely disparate parts of the nation. El Paso, Texas, and Dayton, Ohio, would not seem more “diverse” (to unholy a currently holy term).

Being that Presidential Election Season is so soon upon us dictates that the airwaves screech with opportunism, if not the cheap shot. So some of the would-be’s are using the deaths of 29 and another 53 injured to accost the President. Perhaps Marianne Williamson can legislate love.

What we say and how we say it

Comment BlackBlaska Policy Werkes believes the public discourse either coarsens or ennobles a society. Lincoln’s “better angels of our nature” helped salve the terrible wounds of a fratricidal war. JFK’s soaring rhetoric inspired a nation to go to the moon and to alleviate hunger in Zimbabwe. Trump, his adversaries (think the Kavanaugh hearings), and our entertainment media are main-streaming trash (and trashy) talk.

Of course, the great gun control debate resumes. We are listening for what actually is workable. Would the weekend’s shooters voluntarily relinquish their weapons? Or how you would, dear commissar, decide from whose cold, dead hands they would be taken? And how?

On those scores, the Werkes’ creaking mainframe computer comes up blank. Instead, we turn to the wise heads of Monday morning’s Wall Street Journal for some deep thinking on deadline (quite a feat in its own right).

From ‘The Killers in Our Midst‘:

Which brings us back to the angry young men … All were deeply troubled and alienated from society in our increasingly atomistic culture. This is one price we are paying for the decline in what the late sociologist Peter Berger called the “mediating institutions” that help individuals form cultural and social attachments. These are churches, business and social clubs like the Rotary, charitable groups, even bowling leagues, and especially the family. Government programs can never replace these as protectors of troubled young people.

Recognizing this reality is not a counsel of despair to do nothing about mass shootings. But revitalizing these private institutions of social capital is crucial to reversing the cultural decline at the root of so many of America’s ills.

One could add a third adjective to the description of mass shooters — they are the angry, young white men. And many of our … acquaintances do so with unfathomable glee. But one could argue (that one being Blaska) that the same anomie — that same dead, heartless core — afflicts Chicago drive-by shooters, Milwaukee road-rage gunners, Madison car jackers, and Baltimore rat breeders. An honest discussion of gun deaths should note that mass shootings made up 0.7 percent off all homicides. (Source here.)

Blaska’s Bottom Line: To whom or what do the last-named belong but to the Great Nothing. Those who might erect guard rails are beaten back lest they be found guilty of the great liberal sin of Judgmentalism! 

But not in New Glarus, where the traditions and heritage of community Folksfest are building strong social capital. It starts with the Kinders. 

For Extra Credit:

• “Chicago hospital stops accepting patients after trauma center is overwhelmed with shooting victims” over the weekend. 12 in one neighborhood!

• “59 shot, 7 fatally in Chicago weekend shootings.”

What do YOU think?

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99 Responses to Kids for a kinder & gentler (and less murderous) nation

  1. patrickmoloughlin says:

    Yesterday Joe Biden offered condolences for, “the tragic events in Houston today and also in Michigan the day before,”

    So close.

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    • Cornelius Gotchberg says:

      @patrickmoloughlin;

      Seriously…SERIOUSLY, that is breathtaking, World Class imbecility; what a maroon!

      The inescapable back-story? This guy, Jabberin’ Joe, is Lefty’s front-running standard bearer!

      This keeps up, would a watered down version of the Röhm Putsch be off the table?

      The Gotch

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      • patrickmoloughlin says:

        If only he would have said “congratulations” instead of “condolences, and “wonderful” instead of “tragic,” then he would have gotten it 100% wrong.

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        • Cornelius Gotchberg says:

          It’s no surprise that Biden’s grasp of reality, never that firm to begin with, is loosening before our eyes at warp speed.

          That Jabberin’ Joe’s an intellectual lightweight is no secret. Crickey, he’s a Lefty for the good cryin’ out loud, ergo, possessing an inherent susceptibility to such maladies, am I right?

          In all fairness, it’s not outside the realm of possibility that the Michigan miscue was the result of his legendarily poor cerebral processing, in this case of Cory Booker’s WaPo Four Pinocchio rated slobbering:

          “We lost the state of Michigan because everybody from Republicans to Russians were targeting the suppression of African American voters.”

          Turns out, sometimes two + two DOES equal 13.

          The Gotch

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        • richard lesiak says:

          And trump offered the same to the people of Toledo.

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  2. Sheppy says:

    Dayton and El Paso are getting the press coverage and a lot of outrage (deservedly so) in the media, if only the same coverage and outrage was directed towards what is happening in Chicago, seemingly every weekend? It got so bad there this past weekend that Mount Sinai hospital had to stop taking gun shot wound patients.

    People can spout off all they like about more restrictive gun laws to assist in preventing these tragedies, does anyone really think the people shooting up Chicago bought their guns at the local sporting goods store?

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    • Cornelius Gotchberg says:

      @Sheppy;

      “if only the same coverage and outrage was directed towards what is happening in Chicago”

      Chicago’s off-the-charts gun violence is pretty much confined a certain…um…demographic, am I right?

      Possible solution?

      The narrative sorely needs a Makeover; blame it on White Supremacy.

      The Gotch

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      • Sheppy says:

        The final totals are in for the weekend in Chicago – 7 killed, 48 wounded. While not a mass shooting by definition it certainly qualifies as a toll on the families that now have to bury their relatives. The narrative definitely needs a makeover, unfortunately it won’t happen and people will continue get shot and killed. It’s so much easier to blame the President and GOP rather than hold the thugs doing the damage accountable. Yet, the constituents in the problem areas keep voting for the same political party over and over again…….

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  3. Paula Fitz says:

    Very insightful post. And Mr. Berger is spot on! Our society HAS become detached, and we’ve eschewed many of the values, traditions, and activities that I had growing up. There is indeed no social program on this planet or no amount of money that can replace the solid foundation provided by family, community, church, service to others.

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  4. Cornelius Gotchberg says:

    @AnonyBob was quick to condemn the El Paso shooter because he appears to be an EVIL White Righty.

    Anyone heard @AnonyBob slobber incoherently about the affiliation/ideology of the Dayton perp?

    Me either.

    Gosh, I wonder why THAT might be…

    The Gotch

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    • Paula Fitz says:

      Condemning one act without condemning the other is intellectually dishonest. These are people’s lives we’re talking about; it shouldn’t be a pissing contest.

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    • AnonyBob says:

      It’s hard to have an honest debate with someone spouting manic gibberish. It’s impossible when they out and out lie about what you’ve said.

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      • Cornelius Gotchberg says:

        ”It’s hard to have an honest debate with someone spouting manic gibberish.”

        Gibberish /ˈjib(ə)riSH/ noun
        1-Intellectually prepubescent label @AnonyBob incuriously applies to real real mean Inconvenient Truth that not only doesn’t support the LaLaLoopyLoonyLeftyLand narrative and herd the uneducated feral class Lefty base, but just won’t go away.

        ”It’s impossible when they out and out lie about what you’ve said.”

        Lie…moi?

        Not exactly.

        In a slobbering where you mention BOTH incidents, you only editorialize about just one.

        To wit: “…El Paso because of his ‘Inconvenient Truth’ manifesto…”

        Now, show some character; be a good little Lefty and apologize NOT ONLY for being intellectually dishonest (READ: Lying) but for being morally bankrupt and existentially & cognitively adrift.

        The Gotch

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      • AnonyBob says:

        Your white supremacist Trump fan boy published an anti-immigrant manifesto. The other didn’t. You Trumpsters should apologize to the nation for ignoring at best, or more accurately encouraging, white nationalist terrorists

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        • Cornelius Gotchberg says:

          “The other didn’t”

          THERE it is; the Albatross that will weigh heavily from the hyper-partisan, hypocritical, ideologically blindered, neck of @AnonyBob from_here_on_in!

          @AnonyBob disgustingly rates the El Paso shooter as worse than the Dayton shooter.

          Why? Because the El Paso shooter issued a manifesto, thereby making him FAR more deserving of @AnonyBob’s cravenly selective outrage.

          It’s just a rare treat for any-n-all to see it foolishly expressed, and with such unbridled, duplicitous candor.

          The Dayton shooter? A socialism desirin’, Elizabeth “Fauxchahontas-Lieawatha” Warren-Luvin’, Lefty indentifyin’, gun control advocatin’ John McCain hatin’, democrat votin’, career Lefty.

          @AnonyBob: ”Huh? You see any Manifesto, I don’t; nothing to see here, let’s move along JUST crucify the one with the Manifesto!”

          @AnonyBob; You’ve done enough. Have you no sense of decency, sir? At long last, have you left no sense of decency?

          The Gotch

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        • madisonexpat says:

          El Paso manifesto was also a climate apocalypse guy.
          There are many isolated, lonely individuals that join murderous gangs, join some franchise of Islamic terrorism or become shooters.
          They are not in the cool kids club and need any kind of meaning or seek an assisted suicide.
          By Lefty logic such things could not happen unless Donald Trump is president.
          Who was it that used these tragedies as a political blackjack before the victims were cold.

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        • madisonexpat says:

          Have you read it or just the DNC extract?

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        • richard lesiak says:

          Don’t get trapped in the gotch merry-go-around trick AB. Run down every rabbit hole without dealing with the real issue. Moscow Mitch is getting a lot of heat right now. Background checks and a ban on assault weapons is getting more traction everyday.

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      • Paula Fitz says:

        If you feel that way, why do you keep coming back for more? I’m not trying to be facetious; it’ just that there are people with whom I will never jive with. Instead of seeking these people out, I ignore them.

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        • Paula Fitz says:

          That was for AnonyBob at 1045

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        • AnonyBob says:

          It’s a challenge, PF, but needed. Derps like Gootch say a lot preposterous things; it’s important to call them on it.

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        • Cornelius Gotchberg says:

          As The Lefty Way continues its DEEP descent into laughable irrelevancy, @AnonyBob gets all flop-sweaty panicked and allows his true craven nature to unfold.

          Imagined insults, manufactured Dog Whistles, what next?

          “it’s important to call them on it.”

          THERE it is; the self-selected slot for the slobbering We Know What’s Best For You crowd, without whom the existence of the great unwashed becomes immediately and at once “solitary, poor, nasty, brutish, and short.”

          “a lot preposterous things”

          Riiiiiight! Tell you what; you stop lying about The Gotch and The Gotch will stop telling the TRUTH about you…deal?

          The Gotch

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      • richard lesiak says:

        You always know when gotch is backed in a corner and can’t get out of an issue. He goes into his manic behavior and resorts to insults and name calling. Carry on AB.

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    • Your VOR says:

      Probably because one shooter left behind a manifesto saying that his attack was politically and racially motivated, and the other’s motives are still unknown.

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      • Cornelius Gotchberg says:

        @Your VOR;

        “the other’s motives are still unknown.”

        None so cluelessly BLIND as the Lefty that refuses to see, am I right?

        The Gotch

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  5. Paula Fitz says:

    Agreed, there is a lot of selectivity in what people get outraged about. How can we have honest conversations and make meaningful change like this?

    I think placing the onus for these tragedies primarily on gun control sorely misses the point. We’re seeing this vile behavior, I believe, because our society, our consciousness, is broken; and much of it, I believe has to do with the isolation and rejection of traditional values Blaska pointed out in this post.

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    • Paula Fitz says:

      Oops, this is misplaced; it was meant for Sheppy!

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    • madisonexpat says:

      Many years ago there was a mass shooting in San Diego. I was about to give a speech to many high school kids in a small town in the South. About a third of them were black, I asked them if such a thing could happen in their school or town. One kid conferred with those around him and answered, “No. A fist fight can happen but no shooting. Why not?”I asked. “Because all our grandparents would be at the funerals.”

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  6. dad29 says:

    To his credit, Limbaugh mentioned abortion as one of the contributors. He couldn’t quite utter “natural law” when attempting to describe ‘normal,’ but he’s not exactly a philosopher.

    He’s right. Abortion DOES tell anyone who’s listening that life is very cheap, indeed–and the kids actually listen more carefully than we know.

    What Limbaugh did NOT mention was ‘pure evil.’ He should have, although I understand why he didn’t want to. OTOH, it was right there on the tee-shirt of the Dayton guy.

    Imagine being the parents of a now-dead mass killer who also killed your only OTHER child.

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  7. Cornelius Gotchberg says:

    President Trump:

    ‘In One Voice, Our Nation Must Condemn Racism, Bigotry, and White Supremacy’

    Not something one might expect from a racist, bigoted, White Supremacist, am I right?

    And even though @AnonyBob’s had his dog whistle detector laughed at so often (H/T @madisonexpat), should we still solicit his input?

    The Gotch

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    • madisonexpat says:

      Oh yes.

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    • AnonyBob says:

      OK, how about: Trump always sounds SO convincing when he reads in a monotone a speech someone else wrote, that he doesn’t agree with, and doesn’t know what a lot of the words mean. I mean, what, would he lie? The real Trump will be tweeting his real thoughts soon enough.

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      • Cornelius Gotchberg says:

        ”Trump always sounds SO convincing when he reads in a monotone a speech someone else wrote”

        BREATHTAKINGLY hypocritical observation for a guy whose Hopey Changey hero wouldn’t be caught dead without a prepared speech provided by his ubiquitous teleprompter.

        Don’t get me wrong, I’ve seen him go off script; it AIN’T purdy!

        To wit:

        Watch Mr. Cool hilariously lose his $#!T while he stumble/mumble/fumbles through a rally for Martha Chokely (sic) ~ 10 years ago.

        Incidentally, Chokely had enjoyed a double digit lead in the special election for the murderous Fat Teddy’s seat, yet got waxed at the polls; thanks Hopey!

        Nope, no ad-libbing for Hopey Changey, am I right?

        The Gotch

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      • madisonexpat says:

        He doesn’t need to speak. We’ve got you to tell us what he said, why, what he meant and why it’s a lie.

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  8. Paula Fitz says:

    Very insightful piece; thanks for sharing.

    “Rather, they are the unavoidable and perhaps unstoppable product of a deeply diseased culture. A culture which has become the perfect growth medium for psychopathy.”

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  9. Cornelius Gotchberg says:

    Craven DNC, ghoulish Lefty POTUS candidates are FUNDRAISING on the tails of these shocking disasters!

    Like the guy largely responsible for the current state of violence in Chicago (Rahmbo Emanuel) says: Never Let A Tragedy Go To Waste!

    The Gotch

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  10. Lars says:

    Mass shootings.
    Over the weekend, Chicago had at least 53 shootings, with 7 murders.
    This is average for any weekend in Chicago. Where is the news coverage?
    Add up Baltimore and Chicago, and it exceeds the occasional mass shootings, nearly every weekend.
    Why? There all run by Democrats, and they can’t blame Trump. I was talking to some guys in Illinois a while back, and mentioned the death toll I had heard on the radio, and in unison oh, sounds like a Wednesday. It is so common, it’s joked about.
    T Bone Booker, Bobbie O’Rourke, and the rest of the dweebs, running on the left, blame Trump.
    Did they blame Comrade Bernie, when the socialist shot up the Republican softball field? Did they blame AOC for the attack on the ICE headquarters? What about all the shootings, and rise in racial tensions during the Obama years?
    Can you say Hypocrisy?

    If you can, try to listen to John Anthony and Charles Love, their new show on Chicago’s AM 560, the show is called “Black and Right.” Saturday 1pm.
    Their 1st guest was the great Shelby Steele.

    Get a good gun, learn how to use it, practice, practice, practice. Save yourself, and your family, and others too afraid to protect themselves.

    Libertarian Lars

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  11. George's Son says:

    I won’t name the source (NPR @ 1:30 PM) but they had numerous experts on today. Not only “spittle-flecked” (an apt Gotch-ism), but barely understandable and I am serious here. Pauses, “Umm’s” and more wordless interjections and self-interruptions. Repeat: Barely understandable. And yet, as they all UN-blamed mental health issues, gun background checks, etc. they blamed Trump. They somehow never got around to the Dayton guy…. That “Dayton” guy is the most blatant and obvious far-left whacko we’ve encountered (so far). All I can say is, “Huh” “The Bob-Meister, aka AnonyBob once again refuses to face the reality of the world we live in. That attitude and a dime will get ya 10 cents.

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    • Cornelius Gotchberg says:

      @George’s Son;

      “They somehow never got around to the Dayton guy….”

      Funniest thing, same thing on NBC’s World News Tonight; ALL El Paso…ALL The Time.

      Probably didn’t have enough time slotted, them doing an IMPORTANT spot on White Supremacists in freakin’ Germany and all.

      The lickspittle Lame Stream Media has abandoned even a perfunctory attempt at objectivity.

      Small wonder good li’l Cannon Fodder like @AnonyBob, et al, are lock-steppin’ glassy-eyin’ unquestionin’ their way around this; always wrong yet never in doubt, am I right?

      The Gotch

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      • AnonyBob says:

        Yeah, objectively! They never show the good side of white supremacists!

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      • giantvor says:

        you use a lot of $10 words and unnecessary adjectives. Are you trying to convince us that you’re smart or trying to convince yourself?

        what evidence is there that the Dayton shooter was politically motivated? it may turn out that he was, but what evidence have you seen so far that suggests that? El Paso guy left behind a document telling us he was politically and racially motivated – that’s a bug difference as things currently stand.

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        • giantvor says:

          “the Gotch”….lol

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        • Cornelius Gotchberg says:

          @giantvor;

          “you use a lot of $10 words and unnecessary adjectives.”

          A penny-ante five-n-dime addlepate would know the difference?

          Not exactly.

          ”what evidence is there that the Dayton shooter was politically motivated?”

          Gosh, I don’t know; but there’s this:

          “I want socialism, and i’ll not wait for the idiots to finally come round to understanding,”

          “know your enemies”

          “No filler, no bullshit, just ‘Find problem, Kill problem, repeat until no more problem,’” (bolds mine)

          Probably taken out of context, am I right?

          The Gotch

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        • giantvor says:

          so you are saying that any political speech followed by an act of violence is proof that the violence was politically motivated? that’s good to know for all past and future acts of violence – should make the police work a lot easier. seems like you’re doing exactly what you guys always whine about the “lame stream media” doing – jumping to conclusions.

          This guy was a nut job, and maybe he was influenced by far left extremists. If evidence comes out that links the shooting to his politics, I won’t be surprised. But the evidence isn’t there yet. you really want to believe there is so you can do your whole “nya nya lefties ur SO DUMB” schtick. feel free to do so – you’ll get some of the attaboys that you seem to desperately need (side question – I’m curious, is your online persona what gets you up in the morning? if it is I sincerely feel bad for you – find a productive hobby or get some exercise), the rest of us will simply acknowledge your rant with an elitist eye-roll with a side of smirk.

          “the gotch”…..lol

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        • Cornelius Gotchberg says:

          Waiting for The Gotch in my inbox:

          giantvor liked your comment on Kids for a kinder & gentler (and less murderous) nation.

          Awww; either too spectacularly imbecilic to manage her own cursor, then laughably attempting to erase her affection “etched in cyberstone,” or chronic end-stage Stockholm Syndrome sufferer.

          The rest of your bespawling spin? That may fly with the feral, chattering class Lefty base, but not with The Gotch!

          @giantvor…lol!

          The Gotch

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        • Voice of Reason says:

          you gonna answer the question? is this the position you’re taking or isn’t it? I mean, I like reading all the random words you put together – it gives me good insight as to what you consider clever and thus good insight as to the type of person you think you are, but I’m genuinely curious as to whether or not you are actually willing to take a stand on something other than “lefties are all somethin somethin blah blah blah”. Put your money where your mouth is and argue your point. As a reminder, the question at hand:

          “so you are saying that any political speech followed by an act of violence is proof that the violence was politically motivated?”

          I’ve engaged with lots of guys like you – in the end you all seem to be too big of cowards to actually stand for something and engage in any kind of actual debate – always retreating & diverting. Fear & insecurity. Were you beat up as a kid? Are you a short man? Prove me wrong & answer the question. if this dayton shooter’s political posts are enough to explain his actions, can the same be said of anyone who commits vilence?

          “the gotch”….lol

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        • Cornelius Gotchberg says:

          @Voice of Reason;

          “so you are saying that any political speech followed by an act of violence is proof that the violence was politically motivated?”

          I submit the following logical fallacy, which always seems to befuddle cognitively fogged, simple-minded Lefties (forgive the redundancy):

          Post hoc ergo propter hoc

          All these moronic parody accounts, Ritalin©™® need adjusting…?

          The Gotch

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        • Voice of Reason says:

          good! glad you admit that you don’t have any evidence that the dayton shooter’s political beliefs have yet to be tied to the shooting – you could have just said that from the get go and saved a lot of breath. I don’t think I’ve ever encountered someone who uses so many words to say nothing of any substance. but I’m glad that gussyin up your empty posts makes YOU feel good. keep it up champ, someday maybe you’ll fill that emptiness inside you!

          “the gotch”….lol

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  12. richard lesiak says:

    The New York Times hit it on the money. If either one of these guys were connected to Arab terrorists the full weight of the Federal Gov’t and our overseas allies would fall on them. Home grown white nationalist terror groups? We get thoughts and prayers AGAIN. Trump loves Un and Putin. He is missing a great opportunity here. Just announce a Gun policy like they have in their countries. PS; my “thoughts and prayers” go to Moscow Mitch” who fell at his home and broke his shoulder. That’s a bad sign MM; body is now as feeble as your mind. Please don’t die Moscow; I want you around to watch you lose the Senate.

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    • madisonexpat says:

      Full weight of our Federal Gov’t? Like our Feeble Bureau of Ineptitude being unable to find the Parkland shooter despite him posting threats on FB and that Coward from Broward sheriff sending his minions to the kid’s house 32 times? THAT federal gov’t? They did, however send 16 vehicles full of Tactical Tommies at dawn to arrest a 60+ year old man with zero criminal record and a blind wife. He was out at noon. THAT federal government?

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  13. Batman says:

    If Freedoom Inc.’ community policing was in place the slaughter would approach epic proportions but because the perps are white the spin would be manageable.

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  14. Sprocket says:

    Looking at the killings this weekend and the response from the chattering classes, with a knot of disgust in my stomach, I couldn’t help but wonder how we got to this level of degeneracy and animosity. A couple of things occurred to me.

    If you build a political philosophy with division by class, race, gender, ethnicity, and culture as a corner stone, you are sowing the seeds for identitarianism. If you label the other, based on those divisions, inherently evil and their destruction a necessity, you shouldn’t be surprised if someone takes you at your word. Rhetoric lays the ground work for action.

    People are losing their god damned minds. This tells me they feel threatened. People feel threatened when they believe others have the power to injure them in some manner. This points to the danger of centralized power. When you have an all powerful Federal government, politics becomes a winner take all game and people are willing to embrace extremes, especially when you believe your opponents goal is your destruction.

    This all has the faint whiff of the end of the Roman Republic about it.

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    • Cornelius Gotchberg says:

      @Sprocket;

      “This all has the faint whiff of the end of the Roman Republic about it.”

      Take a few minutes and give a listen to Professor Bret Weinstein’s take on Lefty’s latest victim-mongering scheme, INTERSECTIONALITY, which speaks to what you post.

      The putrid redolence you detect? It’s merely a by-product of the cultural rot of The Lefty Way as it hurtles toward oblivion.

      Scams die hard, but when they do, for obvious reasons no one wants to be caught near the body.

      The Gotch

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      • giantvor says:

        you really think the cultural rot is only on the left? did you see how quickly evangelicals bent over backwards to accommodate a morally bankrupt president? Do you know how many seemingly sane folks on the right think these shootings were “false flags”? this country is ripe with people in all walks of life that are addicted to rage and hate.

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        • Cornelius Gotchberg says:

          @giantvor;

          “this country is ripe with people in all walks of life that are addicted to rage and hate.”

          The Weapons-Grade-Thickened-Industrial-Strength-Hardened ideologically blindered Lefty pig finds a truffle!

          Time to buy a lottery ticket…?

          The Gotch

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        • richard lesiak says:

          Why haven’t we heard a word from Ron Johnson? Answer; his A+ rating from the NRA. 165,000 in donations since running for office. Dollars needed to buy his vote to kill the background check bill. 5950.00 What a guy; sell out for 6 grand.

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        • Voice of Reason says:

          again glad to see you coming around to my line of thinking and admitting that the cultural rot knows no boundaries. keep using that big galaxy brain of yours, and together we’ll keep making lots of good progress on your feelings.

          “the gotch”…lol

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  15. giantvor says:

    For everyone’s consideration, from a conservative voice: https://www.nytimes.com/2019/08/06/opinion/trump-el-paso-dayton-shootings.html

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    • old baldy says:

      giant:

      Great find. Thanks for sharing. And I agree with your 12:29 post as well.

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      • richard lesiak says:

        Looks like we picked up a couple of more like minds OB. giantvor and Voice Of Reason. Glad to see a couple of more people standing up to the rantings of gotch and company.

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    • Cornelius Gotchberg says:

      @giantvor;

      Anyone monumentally clueless enough to tell you that the NYT’s Ross Douchehat is a Conservative Voice, with a straight face, will lie to you about other things as well.

      @giantvor…lol!

      The Gotch

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      • Voice of Reason says:

        Ah, so you’re just the epitome of today’s conservative aren’t you? or let me guess, one of those silly libertarians? THAT’s what you think you are, I’d put money on it. but you’ve shown your cards – you have no interest in small government, you’re just a culture warrior out to “own the libs” aren’t you little guy? you don’t believe in anything, because to believe in anything would mean needing to actual defend something – which you’ve already shown you have no interest in doing. You’d rather tear down consistent, principled conservatives like Douthat as being closet liberals than admit you don’t stand for a damn thing other than throwing hissy fits on the interwebs. oh man, we’re learning so MUCH about you today! “the gotch”….lol

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        • madisonexpat says:

          Project much?

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        • Voice of Reason says:

          snappy 😉

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        • Cornelius Gotchberg says:

          Au contraire, the one we’re learning so much about is @Voice of Reason/giantvor/Your VOR, who not only appears to lack any degree of introspection whatsoever, but thinks she’s pulling one over on everyone.

          Multiple account holders aren’t needy, they’re cutting edge, am I right?

          And they’re predominantly a self-deluded Lefty thing. C’mon, who else but a useless, talentless Lefty would have the necessary time (or imbecilic interest) to devote to such a meaningless ruse unless they were (typically) on the dole or in some seat-stuffer municipal/county/state position where the only REAL WORK they do is creatively avoiding REAL WORK.

          Welp, that and showing up once every two weeks to steal their paychecks; heck, not even that often if they have EFT, am I right?

          You think The Gotch wants to “own the libs”, guess again. You haven’t been paying attention…to the Lefties; they’re on the Highway To Hell, travelling at terminal velocity with a gale force tail wind & wearing gasoline drawers.

          Who in their right mind would want a piece of that?

          I just make casual, well-intended observations while staying out of their way, which is what the lucid do when the self-anointed object of their ridicule is self-destructing in real time.

          The Gotch

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        • AnonyBob says:

          (mega EYE ROLL)

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        • Voice of Reason says:

          don’t hurt yourself peanut – you are way overthinking this. no multiple accounts – just a name changes as I got this whole wordpress thing figured out (which took a few tries, I’ll own that :)). and no cush job – been at the same private company for 17 years and am getting rewarded handsomely for it. just can’t stand pathetic bullies that are all bluster and no substance – so I feel my love affair with you warrants the time. it’s fun to watch you squirm when you’re actually challenged. two suggestions as I sign off on this fine evening:

          – find something to believe in and stand up for it. tearing down others’ beliefs is for weak people and accomplishes nothing. if you want to feel big, make arguments FOR something using logic and facts. I think you might like it and it could actually lead to an exchange of ideas.

          – you don’t have to spend the rest of your life hating yourself and being a miserable prick online. I know you’ve been at it a long time. I know it’s like a drug for you, but you can quit. you can be happier. heck, you can even seek help if you need it. on this point, I’m not even being sarcastic. been sober 5+ years myself and know that people like you are as addicted to rage as I was to booze. you can come back from this and enjoy life. why not give it a try? how long has it been anyway?

          smooches…..”the gotch”….lol

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        • old baldy says:

          VoR:

          Great work ! Speaking truth to imaginary power. But be careful, if you hurt little gootchies feelings Dave will scrub ya.

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        • richard lesiak says:

          You hit it right Voice.

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  16. madisonexpat says:

    If Brandy Grayson is not racist then no one is.
    You don’t need a dog whistle when the racist gas a bull horn.

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  17. George's Son says:

    OMG ! Your Vor ! Voice of Reason ! GiantVor ! A newbie PROJECTOR who avoids research and facts (Dayton shooter’s Twitter & FB posts espousing Warren love, etc?) like A-bob & Richard! Then blames those shortcomings on anyone who listens. Multiple personalities B4 he even gets started. Serious subjects here, so thanks for the comic relief. This… is gonna be…. FUN.
    . https://tenor.com/view/laughing-hysterically-gif-11011047

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    • Voice of Reason says:

      oh, hi little baby gotch wannabe! thanks for the welcome! did you care to weigh in on whether someone’s political beliefs should always be considered motivation for their violent acts (or just this guy, because it’s convenient right now)? if so please dazzle me with your intellect. “the gotch” (lol) backed down so I’m all ears. if that’s your stance then we’re going to have LOTS of fun indeed. take a shot big shooter.

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      • George's Son says:

        Multiple VOR on 8/6/2019 @ 9:26… Sorry, Whichever-you-are. To our dismay, there’s only one “The Gotch”. Someday a coffee-table book of “Gotch-isms” will grace your living room….. Along w/ Ana and Paula’s erudite posts.

        BTW, your caregivers ask, “Please stop spittle-flecking, it’s unhygienic & a prelude to a stroke…”

        https://giphy.com/gifs/monty-python-6MMxtt269tcAM

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    • Cornelius Gotchberg says:

      @George’s Son;

      Heh, too funny; yet another self anointed, amateur-psychologizing Lefty that laughably believes they’ll torment the great unwashed, to no end, with the approval of their own conscience.

      The terminally confused yet never-in-doubt @Voice of Reason/giantvor/Your VOR has her reasons (which reason knows nothing of) and is actually quantifying the degree of culpability of nutjob’s ideology hysterically based on, and this is where it gets GOOD, whether they put their craven thoughts to paper.

      The Dayton career Lefty is less to blame for the simple fact (ever notice how simple people are swayed by simplicity?) because he didn’t write things down.

      Wait a minute.

      FBI Special Agent in Charge Todd Wickerham: “(He was) very specifically seeking out information that promotes violence,”

      O.K., but he didn’t meet the burden of guilt of writing them down.

      Wait a minute.

      He had a hit/kill list AND a rape list?

      Still, the pudding-pated will maintain that he didn’t write them down.

      Wait a minute.

      He <b<DID WRITE THEM DOWN???

      Oy gevalt! Welp, at least we have the El Paso shooter writing a manifesto, right?

      Not exactly.

      Authorities Are Investigating An Anti-Immigrant Manifesto AND WHETHER IT WAS WRITTEN BY THE SUSPECT in a deadly shooting in El Paso, Texas, on Saturday. (bolds/caps mine)

      Ruh roh!

      Never mind!

      The Gotch

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  18. Cornelius Gotchberg says:

    El Paso Mayor/authentic Hispanic Donald “Dee” Margo wants healing, Welcomes President Trump.

    TX-16 HoR hyper-partisan loser/FAKE Hispanic Wannabe Beto O’Rourke DOESN’T want healing, would rather play politics with his constituent’s grief, and to no one’s surprise behaves like the childish Scum Bag He Is!

    I’m shocked…SHOCKED…said no one!

    The Gotch

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    • Cornelius Gotchberg says:

      Lefty in COMPLETE TDS FREEFALL!

      And at the same time as @Your VOR, @giantvor, and @Voice of Reason slither into being?

      Coincidence? You be the judge!

      Anywho; MSLSD’s Nicolle Wallace: Trump Is ‘Talking About Exterminating Latinos’

      It gets worse.

      Mika Brzezinski accuses the President of wanting mass murders to happen:

      “Isn’t it okay to deduce that at this point this is what he wants? . . . I mean, this is a President who seems to want these things to happen. If He Doesn’t Call It Off. How else can this be explained?”

      “If He Doesn’t Call It Off”

      You mean, you know, say something like, and I quote:

      “In one voice our nation must condemn racism, bigotry and white supremacy”?

      Consumed by hatred, Lefty shall die strung up with its own entrails & hoisted upon its own petard!

      #Karma!

      The Gotch

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      • Voice of Reason says:

        always retreating & diverting. fear & insecurity. doesn’t stand for a damn thing. like a coward. give up the hate & figure out how to respect yourself again. it’s not too late!

        “the gotch”…I’d laugh again, but now I’m just feeling sad for you.

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        • madisonexpat says:

          You castigate and accuse folks while exhorting them to stand for something good. Not coherent. Pick one at a time.

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        • Voice of Reason says:

          I know what I stand for, I was just curious to see if “the gotch” (lol…that name) was man enough to stand for something, so I made him my special little project. the results were as predictable as they were pathetic. but I’m just a tourist here, and I make a point to not linger in these toxic environments any longer than I have to. so I’ll be on my way – I don’t know why I’d spend more time here when I’ll be able to live rent free in “the gotch’s” (lol) head for a good long while. 🙂

          but I’ll make one last plea – give it up y’all. what are you looking for here? validation? companionship? just that quick little burst of endorphins you get when you feel like you’ve really stuck it to the libs? from what I can tell, you guys are on here day….after day….after day…why? to impress the two dozen or so people that regularly read it? do you see how sad that is? do you see that your time & energy accomplish nothing? if you’ve got a void that needs filling, find a productive way to fill it!

          and to my sweet little guy “the gotch” (lol), a challenge: try to stay out of the comments sections for one month, heck try to do it for ONE WEEK. the smart money says you can’t – not if your life depended on it. think about that – about how you wouldn’t be able to stop writing snarky comments on a barely read internet blog for single week. how you desperately need this for meaning & validation, and think about how sad that is. why do you need this? get help. there’s more out there man, a whole big, real world full of real people and real experiences. go get some of that. you think you count here – but it’s all vapor, it’s all dust, and you’re wasting your life. prove me wrong – the best revenge is a life well lived.

          cheers

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        • Cornelius Gotchberg says:

          @Voice of Reason/giantvor/YourVor;

          The difference between you-n-The Gotch?

          I don’t need to resort to hysterically amateurish psychologizing to identify your pathetic existence; I know exactly with whom I’m dealing.

          Your time would be FAR better spent contemplating which the the myriad personal weaknesses prevents you from making it past that pesky Step 10.

          ‘Course, your struggles with wordpress strongly suggest that’s not within your skill set.

          “prove me wrong”

          A fool’s errand, issued by a fool.

          @Voice of Reason/giantvor/YourVor (lol!)

          The Gotch

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        • Voice of Reason says:

          can you do it? can you stay away for ONE WEEK? do it just to prove it to yourself that you can, that you don’t NEED this to validate your sad little meaningless existence. vapor – that’s what your life’s become. vapor.

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        • Voice of Reason says:

          I think the real difference between us is that I’ll have forgotten about you & this blog tomorrow, while you’ll be back every day. for years. trying to fill that void. trying oh so hard. oh so hard.

          good luck….”the gotch”….lol

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        • Cornelius Gotchberg says:

          @Voice of Reason/giantvor/Your VOR;

          You are, what we in the business call, successfully fooled.

          “I’ll have forgotten about you & this blog tomorrow”

          Sure you will; you come in and follow The Gotch around like a lost puppy, hijack this thread with breathtakingly off-topic slobbering, and expect the great unwashed to believe that?

          Successfully fooled!

          Might be something to it, though.

          Going forward, I’ll be thanking my lucky stars that I’m not so catastrophically clueless and monumentally misguided and all the while believing the exact opposite.

          You claim you’re taking your leave, yet keep making an encore; anyone that can fog a mirror sees the twisted incongruity.

          Try living authentically like, you know, The Gotch.

          @Voice of Reason/giantvor/Your VOR (lol!)

          The Gotch

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        • madisonexpat says:

          Thank you Doctor Freud.

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        • old baldy says:

          Vor:

          I hope you stick around for the duration. little gootchie is low hanging fruit, and easy to make a center of mass hit. And, as others have pointed out, he really gets snarky when cornered. his spittle-flecked hypocrisy is usually pretty juvenile, but on occasion he gets up close and personal with crazy. Keep up the good work.

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      • Cornelius Gotchberg says:

        Whew; bullet dodged!

        Lefty’s mouthpiece of choice (MSLSD) tells us the talented Nicolle Wallace has mercifully, and selflessly conceded that she MISSPOKE when she breathlessly intoned that “(Trump Is) ‘Talking About Exterminating Latinos’

        Welp, she wrote it down (the burden of proof presciently exhorted by @Voice of Reason/giantvor/YourVor); soooo no harm no foul—unconditional Lefty pass extended?

        Doesn’t matter; she’s seen (READ: Been_Shown!) the error in her ways, ergo, a grateful nation moves forward, am I right?

        The Gotch

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  19. madisonexpat says:

    Vor, you deceive yourself and I imagine it isn’t hard.
    Why do we engage here? To put forth partisan ideologies, debate, clarification, sarcasm, wit, thrust and parry rhetoric. And because we enjoy it. Not hard to figure out. But it is for you, apparently.
    You bloviate for many paragraphs and criticize then challenge folks who can say it in one tenth the time and space.
    Stay or go. Assume, project and err as you wish.
    I remember the first time I was slapped around by a bully. He gave it up before I did. “Just remember” I hollered at his back, “you’re running away. I’m still here.”
    Not an exact analogy but as good as you deserve.

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  20. AnonyBob says:

    “You bloviate for many paragraphs and criticize then challenge folks who can say it in one tenth the time and space.”
    Somehow, Splat, you don’t hold Gootch to this standard. Otherwise, you are correct; most of us hang here ‘cuz we enjoy it. It was fun watching Gootch get completely, humiliatingly, owned (bitch-slapped, he would say) by VOR. Here’s to hoping the new guy hangs around. Richard, OB and I could use the company. After all, Dave has no shortage of RWNJs.

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    • Cornelius Gotchberg says:

      @AnonyBob;

      “It was fun watching Gootch get completely, humiliatingly, owned (bitch-slapped, he would say) by VOR”

      Funny, I didn’t see it that way; though I will admit it was a cut above the typical hilariously lame, ill-informed slobberings of the Three Stooges.

      Glass half empty?

      THAT bar couldn’t possibly be set any lower without bringing in a backhoe.

      Anywho, your perception (“Prediction: Kavanaugh Withdraws,” the Covington Boys, Jussie, ad infinitum ad nauseum) isn’t what the lucid would call reliable.

      “Richard, OB and I could use the company.”

      GREAT point! Idiots savant always benefit from the like-simple-minded, am I right?

      The Gotch

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    • madisonexpat says:

      Gotch doesn’t need me. He’ll take a shot and give a shot for the same reason you and I do. Vor is a newbie. He’ll figure it out, or not.
      Let a thousand ideas blossom.

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      • madisonexpat says:

        Also, I don’t hold anyone to style points. Gotch doesn’t require you to get on or get off this blogge. He doesn’t pretend to know you as opposed to your opinions.
        Sigmund VOR does and introduces himself as the Red Guard did to professors in the Cultural Revolution.
        And here, now, coincidentally, the Khmer Rouge find themselves in hell, smoking a turd with Mao. They look forward to seeing Tom Hayden I imagine.

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  21. George's Son says:

    @ VOR… 8/6 9:PM… All’s I can say is, “Puh-leeze, keep ’em posts comin’.” This blog needs yer Voice bigtime! The serious and cognizant comments by others notwithstanding, who here cannot enjoy a little pedantic drivel once in awhile. Yer doin’ swell so far, thanks !

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