Will government’s guardians of history overturn Madison alders’ grave desecration?

Could the feds take over Confederate Rest?

It ain’t over ‘till it’s over — this being The Emerald City.

We last reported that the all-powerful (perhaps too powerful) Landmarks Commission would need to weigh in once again on the shameful forced disappearance of the memorial stone of a charitable Madison woman, Alice Whiting Waterman “and her boys.”

Confederate cemetery

Flowers marked where the 1981 “unsung heroes” plaque was removed last summer; now council wants the original 1906 large grave marker in the background even tho it does not extol Confederacy.

Apparently, that august body would be required to issue a “certificate of appropriateness” (COA) before the stone can be hijacked from Confederate Rest cemetery. Ordinance 41.09 states:

No person may do any of the following without a certificate of appropriateness  …  demolish or relocate a landmark or any part of a landmark.

The Landmarks Commission may very well deny the COA, given that it unanimously recommended earlier this year the the city retain the stone, albeit accompanied by a new explanatory board. However, city ordinance also gives the council the right to over-rule the commission by a simple majority vote. The council on Tuesday, May 1, voted 14-4 to remove the stone but another rebuke from Landmarks could switch a few votes.

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Stu Levitan

Landmarks’ powerful chairman Stu Levitan upbraided alders before the meeting with this strongly worded e-mail:

It would be an irresponsible, if not unconscionable, abdication of civic responsibility to remove what is essentially a mass grave marker without installing some sign explaining the history and controversy surrounding this historic cemetery, and listing the names of those interred there. It is indeed possible to respect the dead while still rejecting the cause for which they died.

Another approval may be required from the state historical preservation officer at the state historical society. That office’s website states: 

WI Historical SocietyWisconsin’s burial sites laws outline procedures that must be followed by people and agencies who own human burial sites, or who wish to work within the boundaries of human burial sites. Most importantly, it is illegal to dig into a burial site or to disturb mounds or burial markers without authorization to disturb a burial site from the director of the Wisconsin Historical Society.

As Madison’s Landmarks Commission notes, the memorial stone is, indeed, a burial marker. It was the first permanent marker at the site, replacing the easily weathered wooden boards in 1906.

Madison city government created the Landmarks Commission about 50 years ago to dissuade the ravenous appetite of property developers to preserve what is left of Mansion Hill north and northeast of the Capitol. Ironic that it may now cool the virtue-signaling passions of the righteous social justice warriors inhabiting the common council. The commissioners are: Stuart Levitan, Richard B. Arnesen, Katherine N. Kaliszewski, David W.J. McLean, and Marsha Rummel.

There is third way the Waterman stone could be rescued. A small boomlet has begun to get Sen. Ron Johnson to persuade the federal Veterans Administration to assume control of Confederates Rest from the city. It also controls the nearby Union soldiers’ resting place.

Finally, the news media is all over Eric Knepp and the Parks Department, demanding to know when the stone will be removed. They want television footage and page one photographs. Stand-ups live at the crime scene. Calls out to the Revisionist 14 alders for their comments.

Blaska’s Bottom Line: E-mail all the alders to ask if you can watch the desecration of the historic old cemetery. Ask the mayor, too.

 

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31 Responses to Will government’s guardians of history overturn Madison alders’ grave desecration?

  1. “Wisconsin’s burial sites laws outline procedures that must be followed by people and agencies who own human burial sites, or who wish to work within the boundaries of human burial sites. Most importantly, it is illegal to dig into a burial site or to disturb mounds or burial markers without authorization to disturb a burial site from the director of the Wisconsin Historical Society.”

    Naaaa, they don’t need to get authorization form anyone, they’re Liberals and Progressives with social cleansing in their hearts, performing a public service by purifying history to protect snowflakes from possibly being offended in the future by anything. In other words, they’re idiots bowing to social justice warriors who are social terrorists trying to purify society.

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  2. AnonyBob says:

    Conservative Dave is now counting on the judgement and actions of old hippie-liberal-Deadhead Stu. Ironic, no?

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    • David Blaska says:

      Almost as ironic as A-Bob opposing Stu. But, as I said before, Landmarks has too much power. Alders should be left to “Stu” in their own juices.

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      • AnonyBob says:

        Who said I opposed Stu? Or you on this issue, for that matter?

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        • David Blaska says:

          Either make your position clear now or be damned by your silence.

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        • AnonyBob says:

          I’m a little confused by YOUR stand on Stu and the Landmarks Commission. Are you hoping for their intervention or are you complaining they have too much power?
          As for me, I rarely comment on Madison specific, local issues. I didn’t follow local politics too avidly when I lived there, and do so even less now that I’m not in the Madison media market.
          So, as for the Confederate Rest controversy, all I know is what I’ve read on your blog. I’m no fan of the Confederacy and the Lost Cause myth, and I applaud the removal of statues venerating leaders of a traitorous war against our country to preserve slavery. I find idiots flying the stars and bars deeply offensive (and I now live in the South!). But this is a burial ground of amnestied soldiers. The plaque and memorial contained no offensive language or sentiments. You’ve made a compelling case. I’m just not aware of the other side’s arguments, so I haven’t weighed in. Until now. (I’m certainly not going to learn about opposing views from the yahoo commenters on this blog.)
          Satisfied?

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        • That is the only non-trolling comment I’ve ever read from you. I don’t have to agree with your comment but good job sharing your opinion.

          I disagree with you about the removing of the statues, they are historical monuments there to remind us of the cost of the Civil War to the United States as a whole. Wiping historical monuments from the view of the public by perpetually offended social justice warriors is not good for the USA, it’s social cleansing terrorism that’s equivalent to the Nazi’s burning books and ISIS destroying historical sites snd artifactes.

          How far “south” of the Madison area are you now. Must be horrible for you living among deplorable southerners.

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        • AnonyBob says:

          “…be damned by your silence.”
          Really, Dave. A little overwrought.

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        • AnonyBob says:

          Squeaks, you’re new around here.

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        • AnonyBob wrote, “Squeaks, you’re new around here.”

          That’s an irrelevant deflection.

          My perception is what I based that statement on and I very specifically said ” I’ve ever read from you”, emphasis on I’ve.

          Nothing on the points I raised in the second paragraph of my comment?

          No answer on how far “south” of Madison are you are. Beloit is south of Madison area, so is Montgomery Alabama these differences can make a difference.

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        • AnonyBob says:

          Squawks, what do you do when you meet a wild-eyed man on the street, gibbering insults and seeing trolls everywhere? You don’t make eye contact, you don’t engage. You certainly don’t tell them where you live.

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  3. richard lesiak says:

    Starting to look like you ground this axe down to the handle Dave. Your audience is walking out.

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  4. Cornelius Gotchberg says:

    “Could the feds take over Confederates Rest?”

    In a perhaps prematurely celebratory manner, I envisioned CommonSenseLess Council Members and varied-n-many Madison/Dane County Lefties running around glassy-eyin’ lock-steppin’ & unquestionin’ as their Holy Grail (Big Gubmint) gave them both an Atomic Wedgie AND a Purple Herman (Urban Dictionary definition #2)

    https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Purple%20Herman

    The earring deep irony would be just too saccharine sweet…like a hair-raising tale to @hankdog/old baldy.

    The Gotch

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    • AnonyBob says:

      What’s erring deep irony, oh succinct and clear (and crude) one?

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      • AnonyBob says:

        I inadvertently corrected your spelling.

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      • Cornelius Gotchberg says:

        @AnonyBob;

        “What’s erring deep irony, oh succinct and clear (and crude) one?”

        Seriously, 25 years in the legislature? To paraphrase The Captain (Strother Martin in “Cool Hand Luke”): what we have here is a failure to deliver a professional service.

        And crude? What a snowFLAKE! Why not just call it HATE SPEECH & demand it be stricken?

        An earring is something edgy, tres hip Lefties, like you, affix to their pinna lobule.

        “I inadvertently corrected your spelling.”

        Oh my gunny sacks (H/T @GOOD DOG HAPPY MAN), I’ve finally encountered someone that has themselves successfully fooled.

        The Gotch

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        • AnonyBob says:

          Really, Gotch; Purple Herman? I’ve never seen someone so in love with their florid, yet sordid, prose.

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        • Cornelius Gotchberg says:

          @AnonyBob;

          “Purple Herman?”

          It was hatched at Orchard Ridge Middle School in the late 60’s early 70’s and became a part of the HS vernacular when those 9th graders merged with JMM to form the Class of ’73; the rest is history!

          “I’ve never seen someone so in love with their florid, yet sordid, prose.”

          Apologies to Luther Ingram: If LUVING what you do is wrong, I don’t want to be right.

          The Gotch

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  5. richard lesiak says:

    What about the Union soldiers who died horrible deaths in confederate prison ships. According to Alex Jones they were LARP followers of the war. You know like Hillary had actors running a child sex ring. But, where is Soglin? Really! Those in the know can’t say if he is in rehab or shacked up with a porn star. But for 130k he will tweet in his deciding vote. Anyway 130k won’t help with the Iran deal unless your buying 130k worth of Persian rugs. When Scott Pruitt heard about Persian rugs he ordered 260k of them for his phone booth because he didn’t want to out done by trump. What about rugs? trump is trying to grow one and Giuliani needs one. And a rumor at Fox has Hannity flying on one. But, it’s a 500k rug because Hannity only flies first class. But he is a forward thinker, so he talked trunp into a 250billion military contract for developing flying rugs for Americas Space Force. Which is really funny because we all know there is no space. We know this because to get to the moon we would have to travel through space and Alex Jones said the whole moon thingy was a fake. So no moon landing means no space. Which means no space ships. Without ships there couldn’t be confederate prison ships .Which means the Civil War was all fake news.

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    • Cornelius Gotchberg says:

      @richard lesiak;

      Yoikes!! THIS is why breathalyzers should be standard equipment on ALL keyboards.

      The Gotch

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      • richard lesiak says:

        I am disappointed gotch. Falling back on the organic compound formed by the fermentation process to dismiss my post was covered and discouraged in trolling 101. It was interesting since gotch holds a numerical value of 4 in Caldean numerology. But since it is the oldest numerology system on earth, created in Babylon, one can certainly be given pause. 4=chaos and confusion. But have no fear. We can fall back to the Pythagorean numerology system where gotch is assigned #8 which =evolving. That’s a good thing. But anyway, it is 5/5 and a time to celebrate. HAPPY BIRTHDAY KARL MARX. RIP my friend.

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        • Cornelius Gotchberg says:

          @richard lesiak;

          “Falling back on the organic compound formed by the fermentation process to dismiss my post was covered and discouraged in trolling 101.”

          Just riffin,’ my bad.

          “it is 5/5 and a time to celebrate. HAPPY BIRTHDAY KARL MARX.”

          Serious Lefties celebrate May Day, which in a cruel twist of fate, happens to be The Gotch’s B-Day.

          But I’ll hoist one, and likely more, later to the talented Herr Marx…Grouch, that is.

          Prosit!

          The Gotch

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    • old baldy says:

      Great post RL. Keep those coming.

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      • richard lesiak says:

        Thanks OB. I was going to say happy Cinco de Mayo, but that would create images of people of color flooding our borders and destroying America. No need to get these guys blood pressure higher than it already is. So I’ll be nice and just say Happy Cinco de Miracle Whip. Sorry to say there was a problem at the Kentucky Derby today. Ice showed up and started arresting all the jockeys’. But thankfully a bunch of rich white guys who own the horses stepped in and reminded them of all their donations to the gop and struck a compromise. They left the riders alone after receiving the names and addresses of their family members. Ride like you stole it boys! If you win ma and the kids will be still be at home after the race.

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        • Cornelius Gotchberg says:

          @richard lesiak;

          “I was going to say happy Cinco de Mayo,”

          But youse won’t because yer a “Your Costume Is My Culture” victimhoodie/perpetually offended kinda guy, am I right?

          “but that would create images of people of color flooding our borders and destroying America.”

          Gosh, you’d think LEGAL immigrants of ANY color wouldn’t object to ILLEGAL immigrants of ANY color cutting in line, wouldn’t youse?

          Wait a minute.

          They (GASP) would?

          How can that be? Doesn’t that mean they’re, like, aligning with, you know, EVIL Whities?

          Oy; too many questions, not enough time…

          Don’t forget to hoist one for Groucho tonight!

          The Gotch

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  6. old baldy says:

    I haven’t gotten into the fracas on the Confederate graves in Madison as of yet because I just didn’t care one way or the other. But earlier today I was up in the town of my birth and stopped at my Great grand mothers grave just to say hi. So while doing a little reminiscing about my interactions with her I pondered what her feelings would have been about this little dust-up. Her father was a German immigrant that enlisted in the Union army in 1862 as a married man in his late 30’s. When mustered out in May of 1865 near Atlanta, he walked all the way back to the family farm near Two Rivers, WI. Family lore has it that he believed strongly in the Union cause, was an avid abolitionist, and didn’t care much for the guys in gray shooting back him. I still don’t care one whit what happens in Madison, and if dave wants that stone in his yard that’s fine with me. But I’m betting old Grampa Freidolin wouldn’t want it in his yard.

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  7. madisonexpat says:

    You have to be searching for Confederate Rest to even find it. Anyone must go far out of their way, physically, metaphysically or philosophically to be put out in the least over the memorial to Alice’s good heart or the presence of the remains of “her boys.”

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    • Cornelius Gotchberg says:

      @madisonexpat;

      “You have to be searching for Confederate Rest to even find it.”

      Manufacturing offense shouldn’t be easy. If it was, those “Gosh I’m Nice” endorphins wouldn’t get goosed anywhere near as much.

      The Gotch

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