Will Illinois Democrats hide out in Beloit?

Since 2010, Illinois has lost a net 650,000 residents to other states

The beauty of our federal system of government is that if its citizens are out-voted at the polling place they may vote with their feet.

The early returns are in and Illinois is losing and Wisconsin is winning at its expense.

In fiscal 2015-16, according to the IRS, 6,022 taxpayers and their dependents moved to Wisconsin from Illinois. They brought with them $253 million of adjusted gross income. (Wisconsin gained 427 from Iowa, 177 from Michigan, but lost 986 to Minnesota.) Just think what Foxconn will do for Wisconsin!

Illinois loss

Credit: Illinois Policy Institute

In all, Illinois lost a net 87,837 residents to other states and $4.8 billion in AGI. Illinois is already on pace to lose one congressman in reapportionment; it could lose a second at this rate.

Why? One word: taxes. 

A poll conducted in 2016 by the Paul Simon Public Policy Institute (“It’s the bow tie,” as Al Franken used to say) cited taxes as the No. 1 reason for wanting to leave the state. The Flatlanders bear the heaviest property tax burden in the nation, according to the Illinois Policy Institute — double the national average.

Will Illinois taxpayers revolt in next fall’s elections and send their Democrat(ic) legislators fleeing to Beloit? On our side of the state line, property taxes are lower today than they were eight years ago before Scott Walker took office. As a percentage of median household income, they are the lowest since 1946 whereas, in Illinois, they have grown 3.3 times faster than income.

The Tax Foundation conducts the best measure of 50-state taxation. Counting federal, state, and local taxes computed by ability to pay, Illinois paid the 8th-most taxes; Wisconsin and Minnesota the 12th most. Still not good, but Wisconsin is moving in the right direction.

The Illinois Policy Institute calls prevailing-wage laws “another massive blow to local governments’ bottom lines.” These laws can mandate six-figure salaries and benefits for the lucky private-sector employees who work on government projects,\. Wisconsin abolished its prevailing wage laws, which artificially inflate government construction contracts (paid by taxpayers).

The Illinois Policy Institute explains why Illinois should adopt its own Act 10:

Illinois public union bargaining rules stack the deck against taxpayers, especially when compared with neighboring states. Illinois alone enshrines a right to strike for most government workers … a bullying tactic through which government unions can shut down important services until their demands are met. Unlike most of its neighbors, Illinois doesn’t limit contract length for workers contracts and places virtually no limits on what can be negotiated.

The best indicator of economic health is employment. Wisconsin’s unemployment rate was 3.2% in November (the lowest since 1999) compared to 4.9% in Illinois and 3.1% in Minnesota. The national average was 4.1%.


Illinois is the most Democrat(ic) state in the Midwest

Our acquaintances (for they ARE our acquaintances) like to cite Minnesota as that liberal-progressive-socialist Shangrila, a colder but more Scandinavian rebuke to Scott Walker’s “Wississippi.”

Yes, Minnesota’s governor is a liberal Democrat. May we remind our acquaintances that both houses of its legislature are Republican? That Minnesota has had mixed government for most of the last 25 years?

Illinois is the most Democrat(ic) state in the Midwest. Its legislature and governor have been Democrat(ic) since 2003 until Bruce Rauner in 2015 and he has been frustrated by a recalcitrant Democrat(ic) legislature.


 

Meanwhile, The Tax Foundation’s 2018 State Business Tax Climate just came out. It shows Wisconsin ranked at #38, one spot better than a year ago. That’s better than Minnesota, which was 46th best (or 6th worst, counting D.C.). Ironically, Illinois (at #29) beat both of us. (New Jersey, New York, and California were the worst.)

Go figure.

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63 Responses to Will Illinois Democrats hide out in Beloit?

  1. Tom Paine says:

    And how do the Dim’s in Illinois propose to deal with the massive pension liability issue? A Federal Bailout where Wisconsin and other more fiscally responsible states pay for Illinois union benefits? Perhaps they’re planning to be annexed by the profligate and bankrupt government of Ontario? Oh my. Stay tuned.

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  2. Cornelius Gotchberg says:

    “Illinois lost a net 87,837 residents to other states” is attributable to just taxes?

    Think any are leaving because they prefer not to find themselves in front of a speeding bullet or become victims of other violent crimes?

    Or perhaps the lack of sufficient BIKIE Paths/Trails/Lanes/Boulevards/Bridges?

    The Gotch

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    • geo_ says:

      Or like their counter parts in Wisconsin who hate the cold, just moved south to warmer climes

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      • Cornelius Gotchberg says:

        @geo_;

        Mah Man, Mah Man! Good to read yer pixels!

        Anywho, regarding the Global Warming that’s here and worse than the models predicted?

        At the risk of redundancy, it get worse.

        “Plummeting temperatures could send the world into a ‘mini ice age’ in 2030 and could OVERRIDE global warming, claim mathematicians.”

        http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-5215575/Plummeting-temperatures-cause-mini-ice-age-2030.html

        If anything approaching the “Maunder Minimum” were to occur ~ 12 years from now, with an exponentially greater number of dependent humans unable (or unwilling) to fend for themselves, the body count would make the 1918 Flu pandemic look like an average weekend in Cook County.

        Brrr!!

        The Gotch

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      • old baldy says:

        gotch:

        You have been confusing climate and weather for years, now you stoop to misinterpreting the CC science. What a surprise.

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      • Cornelius Gotchberg says:

        @old baldy;

        “You have been confusing climate and weather for years”

        No I haven’t: cold weather is…well…weather. Anything that can be remotely conflated to support the dying-on-the-vine narrative of the Global Warming that’s here and worse than the models predicted is….what is it you’re calling it these days: Climate Change, Global Warming, Climate Catastrophe, Climate Crisis, Global Weirding, etc., etc., etc.

        To wit:
        2005: Next year will be the YEAR OF THE SUPER HURRICANE!!!
        2006
        2007
        2008
        2009
        2010
        2011
        2012
        2013
        2014
        2015
        2016
        2017: See, told you’s!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

        Ah Lefty; so MUCH hypocrisy, so little time!

        Brrr!!!

        The Gotch

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      • old baldy says:

        gotch:

        All you told the rest of the readers here is that you are clueless. But that should come as no surprise to all those subjected to your nonsense in the past. Your credibility re CC/GW is at zero and dropping like a stone.

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      • Cornelius Gotchberg says:

        @old baldy;

        Poor @old baldy, sad @old Baldy, ButtHurt @old baldy; your widdle world got turned upside down on 11/08/2016. What remains is rather pathetic.

        And now (say it with me) President Trump pulls out of the Paris Agreement? It’s not a “Treaty” in the same sense that the ACA’s “Individual Mandate” was not a tax.

        Apparently Hopey Changey getting someone (China) to agree to something to which they’d already committed (reduced plant food, I mean EVIL atmospheric CO2 emissions) is now considered “shrewd negotiation.”

        The “Constitutional Scholar” did an end around the Senate, and oddly enough the Constitution of the good ‘ol U. S. of A. as well, whom you may recall is tasked with, you know, like, approving Treaties & shit.

        The actual agreement? Dodgy science based on hypothetical predictions derived from cherry-picked data from models that have not only been wrong, but spectacularly so; policy-based evidence-making rather than evidence-based policy-making.

        The world’s largest polluter (and our landlord) gets a pass, while the other member nations (who’ve given nothing more than laughably unenforceable lip-service) get in line for a heapin’ helpin’ of taxpayer supported sops, or…um…re-purposing money from poor people in rich nations to rich people in poor nations, if you prefer.

        Every last one of these Climate Conferences (Bonn ’01, Montreal ’05, Bali ’07, Poznan ’08,
        Copenhagen ’09, Cancun ’10, Durban ’11, Doha ’12, Warsaw ’13, Lima ’14, and now Paris ’15) have been billed the same way: Last Chance To Save Mother Gaia.

        Sensing a trend here? I am.

        Funniest thing and what Warmalista Alarmacysts incuriously fail to mention: the disappearing-before-our-very-eyes Ursus Maximus is currently in the throes of a devastating ~ 550 % population increase since the 1950’s, explaining the current warming “Pause” (predicted by none of the climate models) has spawned a cottage industry for Global Warming INC, and 20 X more people die from cold than from heat.

        I’ll leave you with a poignant testimonial recorded during a moment of rather damning candor from Ottmar Edenhofer, whose position (UNIPCC, UNIPCC working Group III, Lead Author AR4 [2007]) is the equivalent of a Cabinet Secretary in our government.
        (emphasis mine throughout)

        “First of all, developed countries have basically expropriated the atmosphere of the world community.
        “But one must say clearly that WE REDISTRIBUTE DE FACTO THE WORLD’S WEALTH BY CLIMATE POLICY.
        “Obviously, the owners of coal and oil will not be enthusiastic about this.
        ONE HAS TO FREE ONESELF FROM THE ILLUSION THAT INTERNATIONAL CLIMATE POLICY IS ENVIRONMENTAL POLICY.
        “THIS HAS ALMOST NOTHING TO DO WITH ENVIRONMENTAL POLICY ANYMORE,
        with problems such as deforestation or the ozone hole.”

        But, but, but, but, but, but, Climate Policy has nothing to do with saving Mother Gaia????? Say it ain’t so!

        Whoa Nellie! Doesn’t leave too much to the imagination, am I right?

        Now go put some vaseline on that oversized keester of yers, it’s cold outside!

        Brrr!!!

        The Gotch

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      • old baldy says:

        gotch:

        I sense a couple trends;

        -You can’t respond to anyone with a differing opinion without resorting to name-calling and insults. Guess you’ll never change.
        -You really aren’t using any knowledge or understanding of science to make your point, but rather poorly researched and mostly false propaganda provided by the professional deniers. No surprise there either.

        Spit, sputter and slobber all you want, but CC/GW is here, and we caused it, you included. Ask any polar bear.

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      • Cornelius Gotchberg says:

        @old baldy;

        “Spit, sputter and slobber all you want, but CC/GW is here, and we caused it, you included. Ask any polar bear.”

        Shouldn’t be a problem, they’re in record numbers and as fat what’s under yer shiny pate & separated by yer ears.

        “ ‘The polar bears on Svalbard is round and full, thanks to a good [ice year] and good hunting opportunities.’ And ‘… Polar bears were fat, many looked like pigs‘, says polar researcher at the Norwegian Polar Institute, Jon Aars to the High North News.” (bolds mine)

        https://wattsupwiththat.com/2017/12/15/the-polar-bear-gate-saga-how-a-picture-is-worth-a-thousand-lies-paul-nicklen-and-michael-mann-vs-susan-crockford/

        Ursus Maritimus Porcus?

        The Gotch

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      • old baldy says:

        Yup, that is a credible source. There was a piece on NPR this AM with REAL SCIENTISTS that would dispute your nonsense using ACTUAL FACTS. Try again.

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      • Cornelius Gotchberg says:

        Dr. Jon Aars & Dr. Susan Crockford are not real scientists?

        https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Jon_Aars

        You’re even more of a blithering addlepate than your terminally imbecilic @hankdog persona from madison.com.

        Head back to skepticalscience.com for some better blathering material, little man, your shouting monumental idiocy from behind mommy’s apron is manifestly tiresome.

        Brrr!!!

        The Gotch

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      • old baldy says:

        gotch:

        Maybe you should read the stuff you link. Or at least have a little bit of comprehension for what the article is about. Nothing you linked proves CC/GW is a hoax. Feeble attempt.

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      • Cornelius Gotchberg says:

        @hankdog/old baldy;

        “Maybe you should read the stuff you link.”

        I did, you freakin’ maroon.

        “Or at least have a little bit of comprehension for what the article is about.”

        I comprehend that Dr. Aars & Dr. Crockford (both scientists) disagree with you about the Polar Bear and its region.

        And while they’re by no means alone, who wouldn’t disagree with a half-witted simpleton?

        ”Nothing you linked proves CC/GW is a hoax.”

        It was Dr. Aars bio, you epic cretin.

        ”Feeble attempt.”

        Only to a clueless ignoramus. Does mommy still allow you exist rent-free in that dank, lower-level-below-grade hovel?

        Again, run along little man, you’re a bad joke.

        Brrr!!!

        The Gotch

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      • old baldy says:

        gotch:

        The good folks at Nat Geo, WWF, IUCN, USGS, Scientific American, Science, etc. all tend to disagree with your assessment of the effect of CC/GW on polar bears. And the link you shared doesn’t say that there is no adverse impact. Poor comprehension and misinterpretation of the material won’t get you any farther in life than your incessant name calling. You can do better, or maybe not.

        Have a Happy New Year.

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    • old baldy says:

      Sorry gotch, but name-calling doesn’t make your BS any more true. Polar ice cap is melting at an unprecedented rate, polar bears and other critters that depend on that ice cap for their survival are suffering, and you still misinterpret data. But no one should be surprised by your continued failure.

      How about them Badgers, eh ?

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      • madisonexpat says:

        I’m afraid he’s Gotch you Baldy.

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      • Cornelius Gotchberg says:

        @madisonexpat;

        @old baldy cherishes the comfort unquestioning cluelessness provides.

        Voltaire said it best: “It is difficult to free fools from the chains they revere.”

        Happy New Year to you’s & everyone else, including muh boi @old baldy!

        The Gotch

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  3. Gary L. Kriewald says:

    Dems are wailing about how the new Republican tax reforms will “hurt” blue (i.e., high tax) states, all the while ignoring a simple solution: demand that their legislators lower state taxes. Of course Dems would rather amputate both hands than sign off on any tax-lowering legislation. If you really want to see a state where residents are fleeing in droves because of higher taxes–and a higher cost of living, and an out-of-control nanny state with a governor who values the “rights” of illegal aliens over the safety of US citizens–look at Californistan, the predictably dystopian product of liberal policies and PC fanaticism run thoroughly amok. I hope Pres. Trump has some plans in the works to prove to Gov. Moonbeam and his cronies that their fiefdom is still part of the Union, like it or not.

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  4. richard lesiak says:

    Tell everyone how great things are when that Fox-Con bill comes due. Over 4 billion and counting right now.

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  5. madisonexpat says:

    Deferred taxes while employing thousands of tax payers is so obvious a value-add that even a Lefty can’t miss it. But then, there are none so blind…..

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  6. madisonexpat says:

    Baldy, the best data analytics, i.e. computer models, based on real time measurements that a $600M campaign could give us resulted in no less than a 94% and no more than a 98% probability that Hillary Clinton would be our president.
    That “science” too was settled.
    Happy New Year, mine sure is.

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    • old baldy says:

      splat:

      Looks like you have no better grasp of science than your buddy gotch. We expect nothing better from the both of you.

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      • Cornelius Gotchberg says:

        Here in the 77 Square Miles Surrounded By A Sea Of Reality, it’s the 2nd coldest post-Christmas spell EVAH!!

        Ever recorded, that is.

        No worries according to CLIMATE CRIMINAL Fat Albert:

        “It’s bitter cold in parts of the US, but climate scientist Dr. Michael Mann explains that’s exactly what we should expect from the climate crisis,”

        Funniest thing, “Gore’s Oscar-winning documentary An Inconvenient Truth did not warn of record cold and increasing snowfalls as a consequence of man-made global warming. And as recently as 2009, Gore was hyping the lack of snow as evidence for man-made global warming.” (bolds mine)

        Global Warming INC Anti-Christ Marc Morano:

        ” ‘Originally, we were told that snow would be a thing of the past, that children just wouldn’t know what snow was, then we saw record snows and blizzards – and then we were told that was caused by global warming. Now we’re being told the record cold is caused by global warming in a rather complicated scenario affecting jet streams and increasing extremes in the planet.’

        ”The problem, says Morano, is there is no weather event that those proponents can’t blame on global warming.

        ” ‘It’s almost as if it’s a comedy of explanations, they really just will do and say whatever they need in order to make it all fit and reassure themselves that every weather event is consistent with global warming.’

        ”What if scientists have a better understanding today of climate change than they did years ago?

        ” ‘Then make a verifiable forecast – tell us what’s going to happen before it happens and stop this nonsense of telling us how everything that happened was either consistent with or caused by it after the fact.‘ ” (bolds mine)

        Brrr!!!!!!!!!!!

        The Gotch

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  7. old baldy says:

    Still confusing weather with climate, eh gotch ? Hard to teach an old dog like you a new trick, or at least when to quit barking up the wrong tree.

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    • Cornelius Gotchberg says:

      @hankdog/old baldy;

      The only thing I may be confusing is you with someone that exhibits synaptic connectivity.

      If we were in the midst of a record-setting, 2nd hottest spell EVAH, youse Warmalista Alarmacysts would be crapping yer Hempen Homespun.

      Put that dog-eared copy of Fat Albert’s “An Inconvenient Truth” away, it makes you tremble like a dried leaf in a Global Warming enhanced wind.

      Nothing to be ashamed about, it scared a LOT of other children too, am I right?

      Brrr!!!

      The Gotch

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    • What, no witty retort from old baldy? I suppose he doesn’t want to show off his exceedingly high Cranial Power Generation Potential.

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      • old baldy says:

        zolt/gotch:

        Sorry to disappoint you, but the nonsense you spout isn’t any more worthy of a witty retort than the drivel coming from herr gotch. You talk about bad science, yet use some pretty poor rationale to justify your #2. Soooo many hypocrites, soooo little time.

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        • old baldy wrote, “zolt/gotch: Sorry to disappoint you, but the nonsense you spout isn’t any more worthy of a witty retort than the drivel coming from herr gotch. You talk about bad science, yet use some pretty poor rationale to justify your #2. Soooo many hypocrites, soooo little time.”

          Yup, that’s exactly the kind of nonsense I expected to get from that idiot hankdog; nothing intelligent to say just trolling garbage. You’re I.P. Address should be banned from all sites that accept comments.

          You’ve earned yourself…

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        • Cornelius Gotchberg says:

          @Zoltar Speaks!;

          Would @hankdog/old baldy be the 1st winner of a coveted Gotchie for his monumentally common sense bereft contributions on two different sites?

          If so, that shows an uncommon level of blithering addlepatedness, rare even amongst the ranks of the career Lefty, where it is found in no short supply.

          The Gotch

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        • Yup, I think our little hankdoggy has accomplished that which no one else even strives for.

          P.S. I think the foolish little pipsqueak hankdog used up all the words in his limited vocabulary for this thread; either that or he’s going blind hanking again.

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  8. Tom Paine says:

    ‘old baldy’ has repeatedly made a compelling case. No need for empirical data, logic, or skeptical inquiry. Tautological truth is the Rosetta Stone of Gore Acolytes the 97 percenter’s. Even Bob Dylan affirmed that we don’t need a weatherman to know hot air when we read it.

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    • Old baldy,
      If you think for one moment that the link you provided is something that contradicts what I wrote in my Climate Change blog then you are way out of your intellectual league. You’re just using Progressive Magical Thinking.

      Allow me to repeat myself from my blog. Please note the similarities between the graph below and the graph provided in your link.

      Correlation does not equal causation!

      “Notice the unmistakable major natural temperature warming and cooling cycles and how relatively similar they are, also notice the smaller climate change trends within the larger trends, these same trends can be found all over the globe. Now really look at the CO2 part of the graph above, the CO2 concentration (blue line) spiked in 2007 to 383 ppm (it’s gone up to over 400 since then) and there has NOT been a corresponding temperature spike, instead the average temperatures have remained relatively stable which is a clear indication that CO2 is NOT the major driving factor of climate change as it is being portrayed in the scientific propaganda. The correlation equals causation arguments that are being presented by the climate alarmists are false and demonstratively so.”

      Good day.

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      • old baldy says:

        z:
        “Correlation does not equal causation!”

        Except it does if you used actual factual up-to-date data. This old and inaccurate graph has been foisted off by the deniers for years (note the last data point is 2007). Poor try.

        PS: You provided no source or references. I did. You are practicing “bad science”.

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        • Old Baldy,
          You truly are an illiterate idiot.

          I know this is all well over your drunken twit pea-brain head, but I’ll give it a try just in case you have an IQ over 60.

          Old Baldy wrote, “Except it does if you used actual factual up-to-date data. This old and inaccurate graph has been foisted off by the deniers for years (note the last data point is 2007).”

          If you read the paragraph under the graph I posted it clearly states what the ppm was in 2007 in the graph I used and “it’s gone up to over 400 since then” (see the graph in your own link it references the 400ppm). The point is that there has NOT been a corresponding temperature spike and there STILL hasn’t been a corresponding temperature pike, this proves their C02 is causing the temperature to rise and the climate to change is a false theory.

          Old Baldy wrote, “You provided no source or references.”

          How about you read the blog you idiot, it contains references; but of course acknowledging such things wouldn’t fall in line with your ignorant smears.

          Old Baldy wrote, “Poor try”

          You should pay attention to this quote, “Better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak and to remove all doubt.”

          You’re a troll.

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      • Cornelius Gotchberg says:

        @Zoltar Speaks:

        Here, the record-setting “Deep Freeze” (AKA: weather) has passed.

        We now return you to your regularly scheduled talking point:

        EVERYTHING (AKA: climate) is caused by the Global Warming that’s here and worse than the models predicted.

        That EVERYTHING is all BAD.

        Wait a minute.

        Might that include the record grain/crop harvests/yields which will, correct me if I’m wrong, actually facilitate the ever-increasing efforts to feed an exponentially rising number of people unable (or unwilling) to provide for themselves?

        Improved diets prevent how many 100’s of million’s from starving? And how many Warmalista Alarmacysts will be dialing down their lifestyles the 40 % the Criminal UNIPCC suggests?

        @hankdog/old baldy…tell us of your sacrifices. Do you light yer occasional cigar with a magnifying glass? What about the CO2/fly ash/pollution???

        Is the terbacky raised sustainably, GREEN, locally derived, humanely dispatched, free-range/fair trade.

        Was the terbacky planted/harvested/cured/twisted/shipped by folks earning a living wage?

        Get back to me.

        Anywho, and according to Fat Albert, it (Climate Change, et al) should also include the aforementioned “Deep Freeze,” which we’ve been told is consistent with
        CLIMATE CRIMINAL Dr. Michael Mann’s claims.

        That making perfect sense to someone in my wheelhouse would raise some concerns.

        Brrr!!!

        The Gotch

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      • old baldy says:

        z:
        “and there has NOT been a corresponding temperature spike, instead the average temperatures have remained relatively stable”. Except that isn’t true. 2017 was yet another record-breaking year for temperature world-wide. A smart guy like you should be able to check that in seconds…

        And no, your graph contained no references. And name-calling doesn’t guarantee acceptance in the scientific community, nor in the community of rational humans.

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        • Old Baldy,
          You are doing exactly what agenda based ignorant trolls do; spit out Progressive Magical Thinking links without an iota of understand as to what your presenting.

          If you’re going to continue to sit there like a three year old brat with your fingers in your ears screaming na, na, na, na and not read and fully understand the Climate Change blog that I provided – including the links – then I’m not going to crawl in your gutter of blind ignorance with you.

          Come back when you have something intelligent to say. I welcome intelligent conversation, even if I don’t agree with it, but trolls can just kiss my a**.

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        • By the way Old Baldy/Hankdog you raving “genius”…

          Using the GLOBAL LAND-OCEAN TEMPERATURE INDEX
          Data source: NASA’s Goddard Institute for Space Studies (GISS). Credit: NASA/GISS graph in the link you provided (https://climate.nasa.gov/vital-signs/global-temperature/) it shows that the average temperature has increased by .594°F (.33°C) between 2007 and 2016 inclusive, that’s an average of .066°F per year. If we go back to the time period between 1992 and 2007 we see that the average temperature increase per year was .068°F per year which is a higher average temperature increase over that 15 year period of time than the time period between 2007 and 2016. So using the data in the link you just provided we see that the average temperature increase per year has DECREASED since 2007; in other words genius, the rate of climate change has decreased over the last 9 years as opposed to the spiked as you claimed earlier.

          There are some facts; refute them with intelligent arguments if you can.

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        • Left out a couple of words…

          “in other words genius, the rate of change of climate change has decreased…”

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      • old baldy says:

        z:

        “Most of the warming occurred in the past 35 years, with 16 of the 17 warmest years on record occurring since 2001. Not only was 2016 the warmest year on record, but eight of the 12 months that make up the year — from January through September, with the exception of June — were the warmest on record for those respective months.”

        See, no name callings, just facts.

        PS: Even if you were right, the small N (2007-2016) of data points you mention doesn’t prove your point.

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        • Old Baldy wrote, “Even if you were right…”

          What’s this “if” shit; I am right and I proved.

          Old Baldy wrote, “…the small [number] (2007-2016) of data points you mention doesn’t prove your point.”

          Actually it does prove my point using real math and using the graph from your data. You’re trying to move the goalposts like an unethical hack.

          Watch this video lecture from Professor Bob Carter and pay close attention to talking about the “length of your string” or what I call tunneled vision in my blog:

          My conclusion to this little conversation confirms that you are the poster child for bias makes you stupid and your’re trolling.

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    • Cornelius Gotchberg says:

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    • old baldy says:

      z:
      Since you can’t defend your argument or refute NOAA and NASA data, you resort to name calling and excuses. No surprise.

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      • old baldy wrote, “Since you can’t defend your argument or refute NOAA and NASA data, you resort to name calling and excuses. No surprise.”

        I’ve got nothing to defend yet because you really haven’t come up with an intelligent rebuttal to anything, all you’ve done is attack and use your progressive magical thinking and copy links that you don’t understand.

        Hell I don’t think you even understand what my argument is or why I have the opinion I do.

        You really are an imbecile.

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    • old baldy says:

      z:

      The higher the N, the greater the accuracy. Stats 101.

      Look at that, I didn’t even call you any names. You wouldn’t need to the potty mouth if you actually had something to say. So keep denying the obvious, there is nothing I can do for you.

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      • Cornelius Gotchberg says:

        @hankdog/old baldy;

        Let’s quit the grinnin’ & hit the linen:

        What have you done, what are you doing, and what will you do going forward to address the Global Warming that’s here and worse than the models predicted?

        Be specific, and try not to lay any tell confirming you’re former madison.com resident addlepate @hankdog.

        Brrr!!!

        The Gotch

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      • Old Baldy wrote, “The higher the N, the greater the accuracy. Stats 101.”

        Logic is not your forte.

        That statement from you makes it very obvious to anyone who has actually read and understood my blog that you didn’t actually read my blog, or you can’t understand it, or your a political hack and a troll.

        Maybe you should be telling that “higher the N, the greater the accuracy” to the “scientists” that are predicting doom and gloom based on their tunnel vision (short string in the video) science and refuse to acknowledge that their science is and has been bad when their own predictions fail miserably and the average temperature rates of change and average CO2 ppm rates of change dramatically deviate from each other and they cannot or will not explain it. The climate alarmists science is, and has been, “correlation equals causation” science from the very beginning and if they told the truth about the unexplainable dramatic deviation they would open themselves up to revealing their obvious scientific fraud.

        Again, stop trolling, shut up, and watch the video I posted above and read the entire blog I posted the link to. Prove that you’re not stupid.

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