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What did Hamas expect?

Trying to stay in our lane, the faceless bureaucrats at the Werkes are not geopolitical experts. We’ve allowed our international passport to expire and our French was never that good. But we do have some experience on the school yard, where we learned that poking the big kid might get you poked back in return no matter how often you cried “Cease fire!” In other words, we may have had it coming, ya think?

We yield the floor to Jake Tapper, a CNN journalist with a bit of an edge. (We like edge here at the Werkes.) In response to calls for a ceasefire to spare “innocent” lives, Tapper in this 7:46 minute clip asks, “What did they expect?”

‘Justifying the deaths of innocents.’ That’s an interesting phrase. What exactly did he think the Israeli military would do in response? Did they not anticipcate that Israel would retaliate? … in a way that would cause innocent Palestinians in Gaza to die, given the fact, as has been established by Israeli intelligence, U.S intelligence, and journalists on the scene, that Hamas embeds in the civilian population? What did they think would happen?  

— Jake Tapper, “How Hamas frames civilian casualties”
Can we pipe Bill Maher into the UW lecture pits?

The indispensable Bill Maher wonders at the progressive Left’s moral equivalence toward Hamas butchery.

The world would be a better place if we had more Israels. … All marginalized people live better because of western ideals, not in spite of them. … That’s how simple the Woke are. It’s never about ideas. if it was, would they be cheering on Hamas for their liberation? Liberation to do what, more freely preside over a country where there are no laws against sexual harassment spousal rape, domestic violence, homophobia honor killings, or child marriage? This is who liberals think we should stand with? …

For the record Jews didn’t colonize Israel or any place ever except maybe Boca Raton. Gaza wasn’t seized by Israel … the partitioning of the region was decided by a vote of the UN in 1947 with everybody from Haiti to Russia voting in favor — but apparently they don’t teach this at drag queen story hour any more.

— Bill Maher, “The War on the West” 6:17 minutes

Blaska’s Bottom Line: It’s the same principle as “Don’t try that in a small town.”

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22 responses to “What did Hamas expect?”

  1. Normwegian Avatar
    Normwegian

    At the risk of being taken to task by the Squire….In the consensus of the Board of Directors at Camp HuFlungDung, if Trump were CIC, the Russians wouldn’t have tried the Ukraine fiasco, nor would Hamas pulled their latest BS. Oh, the Afghanistan CF wouldn’t have happened, either.

    1. brynstane Avatar
      brynstane

      And stupefying inflation and concomitant interest rates. And open southern border. And “forgiven” student loans. And necessitated second jobs. And second string guys taking over women’s sports. Etc. Too bad Bad Orange Man’s toxic personality makes his possibly the only putative candidate likely to lose to Squinty in 2024.

  2. westsidesue Avatar
    westsidesue

    Yes yes and yes! Bill Maher is GREAT in that clip. When I first heard it, I was immediately unhappy that I didn’t think of it myself.

  3. Kooter Avatar
    Kooter

    IMO, Hamas expected– nay, wanted Israel to go “scorched-earth” in an effort to turn public opinion against them and scuttle the attempted “reconciliation” between Israel and Saudi Arabia. I personally think this has blown up in Hamas’ face and will turn more people against them than the Jews due to the unbelievable butchery they demonstrated (unless you are part of the “Hamas caucus”– Rollie, Dick, OB, etc..). Most people I talk to agree with the Israeli position of “Hamas no longer has the right to exist”.

    1. Mike Avatar
      Mike

      Not likely to turn more people against them. There are far too many ignorant (intentionally) Liberal minded college age students (and graduates) who have learned to hate the Jews. Add to that they are being educated(?) by America hating professors.

      1. Rollie Avatar
        Rollie

        “who have learned to hate the Jews”

        Is this coming from a Trump voter by chance? Way to project! Mr. Jews-will-not-replace-us-tiki-torch-there-are-fine-people-on-both-sides?!?

        This has zero to do with Jews, any more than French government actions have to do with French people. Should I start hating you for what Biden does?

        “America hating” !?
        Are we not supposed to criticize our government now? What is the R party premised on but critique?

        1. Cornelius_Gotchberg Avatar
          Cornelius_Gotchberg

          Yo Rollie; incuriously you FAIL to provide the context for “there-are-fine-people-on-both-sides” quote.

          No surprise there, you’re merely supplying Lies-n-Circus for the breathtakingly imbecilic, despicably undiscerning Lefty base.

          In a “land of the blind” LaLaLoopyLoonyLeftyLand, not only is the one-eyed (?) king, but…er…they are portrayed by Dylan Mulvaney, and the tale is a big hit at Drag Queen Story Hour.

          The Gotch

  4. Kevin S Wymore Avatar
    Kevin S Wymore

    How is it that a liberal comedian named Bill Maher is darned close to the repository of all that remains good in American popular culture? He does kick rhetorical BUTT in this clip, nonetheless.

  5. Bob Avatar
    Bob

    I wonder what all the American soldiers that fought in WWII would think of their Country today? I guess we will never know since almost all are deceased. Is history going to repeat itself?

  6. Rollie Avatar
    Rollie

    Again the same logic of Blaska can get turned around. What did the Israeli government expect? Set up an apartheid state and think that nobody will violently resist? Expand settlements, destroy people’s homes, and kill innocent people and think that nothing will happen?

    “the partitioning of the region was decided by a vote of the UN…”

    Are Cons suddenly in favor of following UN guidance and authority? Or perhaps only when the UN happens to agree with what Cons want? None of this would have happened if the UN had been allowed to be an actual democratic and authoritative body and, even absent that, if the advice of the UN had been followed in the years since the partitioning in 1947.

    1. Cornelius_Gotchberg Avatar
      Cornelius_Gotchberg

      “Set up an apartheid state and think that nobody will violently resist?”

      There’s an Apartheid State?

      Not exactly.

      Allegations That Israel Is An ‘Apartheid’ State Are False under International Law

      Perhaps you might go back to blaming everything on RAYcism?

      Wait a minute.

      That’s been an abysmal EPIC FAIL, too, am I right?

      Anywho, your day job; you any good at it…?

      The Gotch

      1. Rollie Avatar
        Rollie

        Yep, South Africa wasn’t an apartheid state either, there are plenty of references that said that over the years.

        I love it when Cons reference international law. Are we supposed to follow that? Get your theories straight.

        You saying I failed at something holds about as much weight as a random drunk at a bar saying so. You have nothing in your quiver but links and insults.

        1. rvtl1947hotmailcom Avatar
          rvtl1947hotmailcom

          right you are Rollie. Ohio, Kentucky and Virginia shows that the Dems are alive and well.

        2. Cornelius_Gotchberg Avatar
          Cornelius_Gotchberg

          Your inability to stay on topic is troubling…TROUBLING…yet understandable.

          You find yourself needing to defend the indefensible: The unmitigated, all-consuming Jew Hate which Lefty believes no longer needs to be kept to themselves.

          To observe that it’s not going well would be a gross understatement.

          Glass half full?

          At least your attempts to claim It Ain’t What It Is are confined to The Werkes.

          In the known Universe? Not so much; to wit:

          A shockingly unhinged display by Squad Member (Cori Bush) has removed all doubt.

          It gets better.

          Lefty Anti-Semite/Jew Hater Extraordinaire (forgive the redundancy) Rashida Tliab has been CENSURED…and by many of her fellow Lefties.

          That much of Lefty’s idiot base deems this alive and well? Priceless!

          The Gotch

  7. madisonexpat Avatar
    madisonexpat

    Jeez Rollie.
    Israel is not South Africa. S. Africa is not Israel… ever.
    ‘From the crick to the pond, Rollie’s “analogies” make me despond.’

  8. Rollie Avatar
    Rollie

    No matter how much the media wants you to believe it, criticism of the Israeli government is not the same this as criticism of Jewish people.

    1. Cornelius_Gotchberg Avatar
      Cornelius_Gotchberg

      No matter how much the media wants you to believe it, unprovoked, barbaric WAR CRIME SLAUGHTER of innocent citizens is not the same as Freedom Fighters resisting colonial oppression. fify

      The Gotch

      1. Rollie Avatar
        Rollie

        I agree that Hamas’ attack is not the same as freedom fighters resisting colonial oppression. Killing innocent children has no context in which it is justified. I don’t agree that it was unprovoked, because killing innocent children has no context in which it is justified.

        None of this is self defense, all of it is vengeance.

        If you’re going to bring up war crimes (and I do agree that what Hamas did is unequivocally a horrific war crime) I would think that you’d be interested in rallying against them without regard to who is committing them. But it seems like Cons only like to bring it up when the brown-skins commit them. (Oh no I brought up race again!! That’s not fair!)

        With this newfound interest in international law, I assume you’re also advocating that the US sign on to the treaty that would subject our citizens to the jurisdiction of the International Criminal Court?

        1. madisonexpat Avatar
          madisonexpat

          No. Why?

    2. madisonexpat Avatar
      madisonexpat

      Squirrel!

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