Pre-teenaged chaos at the Library: ‘We don’t have to listen to police’

Girl kicks policeman in the groin

15 to 20 kids ages 11 and 12

Bookshelf topped, garbage strewn

From the Madison Police Department report:

Madison police were called to the Madison Public Library’s Lakeview Branch, 28455 North Sherman Ave., at 4:58 p.m. Monday after a group of loud juveniles refused a librarian’s request to leave the building. 

The librarian later told police some in the group have caused issues several times, over the past week, inside the normally quiet branch. When officers arrived the juveniles, who numbered between 15 and 20, announced they did not have to leave, that they did not have to listen to police, and that police could not touch them. 

Despite protestations, officers spent 10 minutes trying to dialogue with the young people, until trying to escort some out. During the process, one girl kicked over a trash can sending refuse materials across the library floor. 

She then kicked a male officer in the groin who had grabbed her arm. Another juvenile kicked a chair which hit and toppled a bookshelf. 

Throughout the disturbance, young people were yelling and swearing at the officers while several recorded everything on their cell phones. One young person displayed gang signs. Another took off his jacket and postured as if he wanted to fight one of the officers. This child also knocked over a trash can, kicked over a chair, and rifled a half-filled bottle of juice across the library. 

“The crowed outnumbered the police. They were loud and frenzied,” wrote a detective in his report. An officer wrote, in another report, that they were met “with angry belligerence and outright refusal to comply with a lawful command.” 

The North District Community Police Team was brought in to back up the original four officers who had been dispatched. In the end, five juveniles were given municipal citations for infractions like disorderly conduct, trespass after notification, and resisting. Officers explained what took place to the children’s parents as those cited were released to adults.

Commentary on social media

A Cherokee resident — This is what has been happening in our middle and high schools. There is a lack of respect for teachers and staff. Behavior incidents have doubled. When the kids get out of school, groups of them congregate in different locales creating disturbances, sometimes going place to place, creating more disturbances. Have seen this happen multiple times at McDonalds.

A Kennedy Heights resident — These incidents seem to be happening often at the library. My wife has witnessed them in the past and we don’t visit as often as we used to. There was another escalated incident last Thursday with a large group of kids about the same age. It’s sad but we won’t leave our kids alone at this library anymore. An 11 year old should be safe at the library but unfortunately, it’s not a safe place when this is happening. The group seems to be the same and if they are part of a program through the northside council it would make sense. They are loud and it’s clear they don’t respect rules or authority.

Westport resident — I saw and heard it too. Not sure what happened but I saw the police being incredibly kind and patient.

Sherman neighborhood resident — I’m sad to hear it was a NSPC program. You can’t expect the rest of the community to not feel safe at the library due to a program you are not able to control. Stop looking at the color of the kids skin…look at their behavior. We do a disservice to our youth when we have lower expectations of kids of color…they are not inferior. All kids are the same and should be treated the same and be held accountable for their actions.

Northside Planning Council plays the victim card

The Northside Planning Council became aware tonight (03-11-19) of an escalated incident involving middle school youth in one of our programs and the Madison Police Department. We know that one of the friends of our students was tackled by the officers, leaving her and her peers traumatized. We are reaching out to the students and their families to offer support and resources and to listen to them about what kind of response they would like to see. We recognize that regardless of the specifics of this incident, it falls within the broader context of the policing of communities of color, which is counter to our mission of fostering equity and improving the quality of life on the Northside.

Blaska’s Bottom Line: They shall hereby be known as the Northside Enablers Council.

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57 Responses to Pre-teenaged chaos at the Library: ‘We don’t have to listen to police’

  1. sahmpaw says:

    Is this an attempt to create a false flag or incite in incident with police? Well, it didn’t work because our excellent police department by all accounts treated them with honor and respect – which they should be showing those in authority over them. The NPC’s response is so disgusting. Give me a break!

    Liked by 2 people

  2. Fritzderkat says:

    Don’t know who’s noticing or not, but the shit is hitting the fan.

    Liked by 3 people

  3. Batman says:

    The difference between growing up watching Mr. Rogers and growing up playing violent video games and watching gangsta vids.

    Liked by 2 people

    • nathanemarks says:

      I played all the violent video games growing up, and watched GI Joe, HeMan and Thundercats — all violent cartoons. However, somehow I overcame these terrible influences and managed to never tear up a library, or kick a PO in the nads.

      Put the blame where it belongs — on irresponsible parenting. And furthermore, support policies which penalize parents when they do nothing to correct the behavior of their children.

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  4. Marge Bils says:

    Maybe the Librarian should have called Ali Muldrow & Amanda Mirilli instead of the police since they think they know more than police teachers parents etc.
    Adults can be banned from libraries when they behave this way. Maybe the same should go for teens. It makes me sad to see stuff like this; kids have not learned to respect themselves their parents teachers police etc. Their lives are in jeopardy unless they realize no culture would accept this behavior ; parents politicians & community activists are failing these young people.🙁

    Liked by 5 people

  5. Tom Paine says:

    xxxxx xxxx xxxx

    Any readers here who actually believe behavior will get better?

    Cheatham for President.

    Like

  6. Batman says:

    Ali Muldrow:
    “My opponent would like to do all kinds of things to black students: punish them, humiliate them, hurt them, silence them, suspend them, expel them— pretty much anything but teach them. That is theme in Madison: how we blame black children, how we hurt black children, how we get rid of black children, how we do not listen to black children. A lot of people are afraid to have a real conversations about race. We are a society that has always thought black children are unfit for education.”

    You tell em Ali…

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  7. Cornelius Gotchberg says:

    Uneducated feral youth (AKA future Big Gubmint dependent slugs/democrat voters) are becoming uneducable feral youth at warp speed.

    The crushing irony is it happens in a freakin’ library; these illiterate sloths coudn’t spell CAT if you spotted them the C and the A.

    And seriously…SERIOUSLY, the Thugs-in-Training are traumatized?

    The world is being shaven by a drunken barber, and morons like the NSPC are holding the strop & the razor.

    The broader context of the policing of communities of color is failing because parents of color are failing to show up for the work of tending their illiterate POS charges!

    The Gotch

    Liked by 2 people

  8. Sprocket says:

    The educational achievement gap is truly and unfathomable mystery…

    Liked by 1 person

  9. Larsen E. Whipsnade says:

    These “youth” should be treated (and dealt with) in accordance with the content of their character.

    Liked by 4 people

  10. highhorseheels says:

    Shouldn’t social services share some blame here? Children are not being removed from their unfit parents. Or would that be racist?

    Liked by 2 people

  11. Batman says:

    Everything in Madison is racist…

    Liked by 1 person

  12. Patrick M. O'Loughlin says:

    “We don’t have to listen to the police, and you can’t touch us!”

    Wonder where they got that Idea? And how many of those handed over to the parents later, were told they had done the right thing?

    Liked by 1 person

  13. Bob Dorn says:

    Good job for Felicity Huffman and Lori Loughlin for giving good liberals a bad name by bribing university officials to get their underperforming white kids into the Ivies. Surely, that can’t happen here in the Emerald City and its crown-jewel university!

    Like

    • AnonyBob says:

      Bit of a partisan stretch there, Mr. Dorn, considering that Felicity’s husband, William Macy, is such a well known and strident Republican. I doubt he was ignorant of this bribery scandal that helped their child; it was just his wife’s name on the checks. It’s the same old, old story of the wealthy thinking the rules don’t apply to them. And the wealthy? They’re usually conservative and Republican.

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      • Bob Dorn says:

        Don’t know, other Bob – I think there is plenty of liberal wealth to go around. Can’t find anything on my basic Internet search that sez Mr. Macy is a “strident Republican” – he seems more open-minded than most, though, which is a stretch for you sir.

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        • Cornelius Gotchberg says:

          @Bob Dorn;

          ”And the wealthy? They’re usually conservative and Republican.”

          From that one might conclude that Lefties, (most, not all), are lazy, layabout freeloaders.

          Fun Fact: the lyin’ theivin’ deceivin’ Hillarity outraised President Trump 20-to-Freakin’-1 in the White Billionaires department.

          Oh, the humanity! Party of The People, am I right?

          Anywho; don’t tell that to @AnonyBob, he’s suffering enough from severe shell-shock due to Lefty’s hilariously public implosion.

          The Gotch

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        • AnonyBob says:

          After a quick google search I can see why you’d question that. But I remember seeing Macy on the Letterman show enthusiastically boosting Bush “He’s my man!” Macy is a Republican. Not as obnoxious as, say, James Woods. But then again, he still gets work in Hollywood.

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      • madisonexpat says:

        Unless they are corrupt university employees.

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  14. madisonexpat says:

    Remember the Baltimore Mom two years ago? She caught her Antifa son at a confrontation and slapped the mask off him on camera? Everybody from Whoopi to Al Sharpton applauded her. Make that video be watched by Black parents in Madison as the best lesson they could learn. Sooner better than later.

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  15. Cornelius Gotchberg says:

    No Usual Suspect Lefties (Li’l Jeffy, et al) furiously slobbering their WOKE “I’m Dialed In” Virtual Signaling about this being the direct result of White Supremacy/White Privilege/Racism/Ad Infinitum/Ad Nauseum?

    Curious, that…

    The Gotch

    Liked by 1 person

    • richard lesiak says:

      fake news.

      Like

      • Cornelius Gotchberg says:

        “For the love of god [richard lesiak], if you can’t post anything that adds to the conversation then STFU.

        The Gotch

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        • 4katilu says:

          Thank you, Gotch

          Like

        • richard lesiak says:

          You don’t tell me or anyone else to STFU you blowhard.

          Like

        • richard lesiak wrote, “You don’t tell me or anyone else to STFU you blowhard.”

          Dave,
          I think it’s time top ban this twit of a troll, Richard Lesiak.

          Like

        • Cornelius Gotchberg says:

          @richard lesiak;

          “You don’t tell me or anyone else to STFU”

          Actually I do, and will again.

          Funniest thing, you’re the only one whom I feel NEEDS to read it; seems I’m not alone on that, am I right?

          The Gotch

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        • AnonyBob says:

          Gootch is the blowhard twit that should be banned! Two votes for that!

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        • Cornelius Gotchberg says:

          @AnonyBob;

          “Two votes for that!”

          Whaddya know, a Lefty wanting to vote more than once because he thinks he’s morally right.

          Priceless!!

          The Gotch

          Like

      • AnonyBob says:

        Seems like a pithy and accurate statement to me. Gootch, your fervid attempts to shut Richard down indicate how threatening you find him, though you’ll never admit it. Amiright?

        Like

        • Cornelius Gotchberg says:

          @AnonyBob;

          Your hilariously off-base observation does nothing to enhance your dwindling credibility; quite the opposite, actually.

          @richard lesiak sinks quickly under the crushing weight of his inescapable irrelevance, your laughable support has booked you one-way passage for the ride.

          The Gotch

          Liked by 2 people

        • AnonyBob wrote, “Seems like a pithy and accurate statement to me.”

          Pithy?

          Accurate?

          You obviously don’t understand what those words mean because Gotch’s comment was an accurate observation and not fake news.

          It’s become quite obvious that Richard has become nothing but a hit-n-run troll on this blog offering up one self-inflicted intellectual slap down after another and his two word “fake news” comment above is another perfect example of his ignorant trolling. Why is it that a person, such as yourself, would choose to go out of his way to stick up for a troll like Richard with false rationalizations that don’t reflect intelligent thinking, and you seem to do it routinely?

          AnonyBob wrote, “Gootch, your fervid attempts to shut Richard down indicate how threatening you find him, though you’ll never admit it.”

          Do realize that the quote that Gotch shared in bold text above is something that trolling Richard originally wrote back on February 11, 2019 at 9:16 pm and I told him that his words would be “coming back word-for-word to haunt [him] on a regular basis”. What’s rally interesting is that his words back on February 11 didn’t get the same “your fervid attempt to shut _____ down indicate how threatening you find him, though you’ll never admit it” response from you.

          What these things show me is how much of a unapologetic hypocrite you are. What you’re doing around here is exhibiting blatantly unethical behavior that shows a terribly corrupt set of morals.

          AnonyBob wrote, “Amiright?”

          In a word; NO!

          The end.

          Liked by 2 people

        • Sarah Smith says:

          You Commie pukes are about as threatening as bread mold…er, make that shower mildew, bread mold actually has a purpose.

          Liked by 2 people

        • Sarah Smith wrote, “You Commie pukes…”

          It’s not clear who that statement was directed towards.

          Like

        • Cornelius Gotchberg says:

          @Sarah Smith;

          “bread mold actually has a purpose.”

          Heh! Congrats; Gut Laugh Leader board entry!

          The Gotch

          Liked by 2 people

  16. Lars says:

    National Geographic, April 2018, “There’s No Scientific Basis for Race”
    As long as we play along with the fallacious notion of Race, we will never solve anything.
    Racism, the Leftists create new isms on an almost daily basis.
    We have to stop allowing these intellectual wimps to frame the argument.
    We have to focus on family involvement, in not just in the home, but involvement in education, and all aspects of there family’s life.
    Fathers in the home is the place to start.
    Then real discipline, from the beginning, not after it is to late.
    When you, or anyone says there is only one race, the human race, don’t back down because they call you a racist. Make them tell you what they can tell you about the genetic difference between any one human from another.
    Tell them about Nat’l Geo. April 2018, “Race – It’s a Made Up Label”
    The science, the truth, is on your side!

    Lars

    Liked by 1 person

    • nathanemarks says:

      Someday, I would like to think our children will laugh at us for using race as a descriptor, the SAME way we laugh at our ancestors for thinking the world was flat.

      The concept that we are somehow different based on our skin color…..is as arbitrary as judging people by the length of their ear hair.

      Start describing and thinking about people in terms of their attitudes, actions and choices: “hey, look at that guy in the orange shirt”, instead of “hey, look at that bald white dude”.

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      • kayhong wai says:

        Wow… you guys don’t keep up with science here? Even pop science like 23&Me shows race can be determined from a cheek swab. The latest genetics research shows “race” (they say population to avoid the r-word) to be real and meaningful, and MUCH deeper than skin color. The human brain isn’t immune to evolution, many human rac-, er, populations, have demonstrably changed in less than 10k years, and until the modern era some populations hadn’t mixed in over 50k years. Check out the latest book from Harvard geneticist David Reich for starters if you are still MLK colorblind. He spends the last third apologizing for finding what he found; useful for coddling the feelings of boomers and liberals.

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        • Lars says:

          Kay Hong Wai
          You need to keep up with the science, I have done 23 and me, there is only one race. The human race. Race is not a genetic construct. It is man made, I am not going to take the time to explain it to you. It is well stated in earlier post. Read April 2018 National Geographic with the cover photo of twin girls one dark skinned and one light skinned.
          Read geneticist Dr John Sanford received his PhD at UW, responsible for the Gene Gun. Or Dr Robert Carter, if you want to be up to date on genetic’s, and the fact of only one race, the human race.

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        • kayhong wai says:

          replying to Lars here: I did look those two guys up, and I hope everyone else reading this does too. Wow… “keeping up” for you is a social engineering article in a pop magazine and two young earth creationists who got their genetics education in the 1970’s! Their writings on race are plainly religious in nature. I’m not saying Alexander G Bell wasn’t a smart guy, but he’s not who I’d look to for info on modern telecommunications. Cell phones are real despite AG Bell’s ignorance of them. Race is real despite yours. Feel free to call it population, or whatever euphemism for the subdivisions of our SPECIES you prefer. You don’t have to buy into society’s lies that say difference = prejudice, or human worth = IQ. Men and women are different, but of equal moral worth (IMHO). Likewise adults and children, rich and poor, tall and short… The same for different “populations”. Please do read David Reich, as I read your recommended works.

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        • Lars says:

          Lars says:
          March 15, 2019 at 7:20 pm
          kayhong wai says: Do read David Reich, as I read your recommended works.
          First I want thank you for recommending Dr. Reich, his work is fascinating.
          Your use of logical fallacies is also quite informative.
          Your use of the Genetic fallacy, is quite apropos.
          Your appeal to novelty, or age, I am not quite certain.
          Why you would find Dr. Reich’s youthful inexperience a plus? It is hard to comprehend.
          If you actually looked at Dr. Sanford’s work, and experience, and all his accomplishments, in his more than 30 years as genetics Prof. at Cornell, and another 15 plus years as Ass. prof at Cornell. His at least 3 inventions that helped feed the world. His more than 100 scientific publications, his 2 Biotech enterprises, derived from his research.
          His books. If you really want to know, understand, you need to read “Genetic Entropy”
          The last more than 15 years, have been devoted to theoretical genetics, and bioinformatics.
          The genetic entropy or, huge mutation rate uncorrected by the DNAs repair system, and it’s accumulating effect, says quite a lot about Dr. Reich’s assumptions.
          Your subtle Ad Hominem attack, on Dr. Sanford, and Dr. Carter, because they both went from believing in Darwinian evolution, when in their post doc. work, couldn’t find the evidence they were taught was there. They simply followed the evidence and threw off the blinders.
          In Dr. Carter’s work with Dr. Sanford etc. he’s has sequenced his own genome, and though he is lily white, has genetic lines to Cameroon, about as dark any people on earth.
          The Fact that Mitochondrial Eve, is shown to go back 200,000 years, and all people are derived from her, and now they can trace all maternal, or Mitochondrial lines, to 3 women, approximately 5000 years ago.
          Is more than good evidence we all are one race, the human race.
          I didn’t see any work by Dr. Reich, using the Mitochondrial genes, granted I have much more research to do on Dr. Reich’s work.
          And yes, do as kayhong wai says, I hope that people will read Dr. Sanford’s books, and research, NOT what someone say’s about Sanford’s or Dr. Carter’s work. But read their own work.
          Perhaps Dr. Reich will one day come close to equaling Dr. Sanford’s accomplishment’s.
          He has plenty of time, but since Dr. Sanford has been working in the field of genetics, and continues to do so, since Dr. Reich’s was in diapers, he
          has a long way to go.
          I am well aware of Nat. Geo’s shortcomings, which are legion.
          Perhaps the problem is there is not a good definition of race, but using common mutations, DNA errors, disease, etc. common to different genetic bottlenecks or isolations is not a good measure.
          Here is a short snippet, of Dr. Reich’s writing.
          ‘Groundbreaking advances in DNA sequencing technology have been made over the last two decades. These advances enable us to measure with exquisite accuracy what fraction of an individual’s genetic ancestry traces back to, say, West Africa 500 years ago — before the mixing in the Americas of the West African and European gene pools that were almost completely isolated for the last 70,000 years. With the help of these tools, we are learning that while race may be a social construct, differences in genetic ancestry that happen to correlate to many of today’s racial constructs are real.
          Recent genetic studies have demonstrated differences across populations not just in the genetic determinants of simple traits such as skin color, but also in more complex traits like bodily dimensions and susceptibility to diseases. For example, we now know that genetic factors help explain why northern Europeans are taller on average than southern Europeans, why multiple sclerosis is more common in European-Americans than in African-Americans, and why the reverse is true for end-stage kidney disease.’
          The 4 dimensional genetic information, 5, if you include time, some say it could turn out to be 12 dimensions. Trillions of cells, multiplied trillions of neural connections, we have barley scratched the surface, of this staggering complexity
          Genes that regulate other genes, that still regulate other genes. Palindromic genetic sequences that, do completely different things, depending on direction of read etc.
          Trillions of cells, multiplied trillions of neural connections, nanomachines, etc. truly amazing, staggering complexity. We are one human race, with a myriad of differences but still one.
          Please Read Dr. Sanford’s book “Genetic Entropy”
          On a slightly lighter note, in accord with the buying of university admission, etc.
          Read “Springtime For Snowflakes” by just retired Prof at NYU, Michael Rectenwald.
          Also try to listen to him interviewed on grade inflation, etc. where he says, a D, is now an A-, B+ at worst.
          Carry on
          Lars out

          Liked by 1 person

  17. dad29 says:

    Somehow, they forgot to blame Trump. So far.

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  18. Vernal R. Bronson Sr. says:

    Why has the non-acceptance of unacceptable behavior become RACISM. It’s become an excuse to behave any way you want to without consequences. What makes bad behavior ok just because you are of a certain color??? The tail is wagging the dog and in Madison, it’s working!!!

    Liked by 1 person

    • Sazzy Lee Varga says:

      IMO- blaming any of this on race – is racest. Bad behavior done by anyone needs to be addressed. Break the law- it needs to be addressed. To think as they did “‘We don’t have to listen to police” this is an issue. A parenting issue. Not a color issue. It is also an entitlement issue. Which again comes down to parenting. Glad I don’t have young kids in this day and age.

      Liked by 1 person

  19. Sarah Smith says:

    Under Evers, they can’t read anyway. Build a zoo, not a library…these are feral animals.
    Fix your filthy culture, Black Community….government cannot do that for you.

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  20. Did you all see the mother of the preteen boy that was taken to the floor because of his physical resistance to the officers on the news last night; she actually used the words “excessive force” when she talked about the actions of the police, she sounded like a blithering fool.

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    • Cornelius Gotchberg says:

      @Zoltar Speaks!;

      Saw that. Complete blindly clueless excuse-making:

      “My kid would NEVER do that.”

      Let’s go to the replay booth, shall we?

      HeyZeus Alou; had I done anything remotely resembling that, I’d STILL be grounded.

      LE specifically, and society generally, needs to start holding parents responsible for their miscreant’s behavior; until then, it’ll only get worse.

      The Gotch

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  21. Ana says:

    I think facing the truth, in all communities, will set us free from policies based on pretense or fanciful “research”.
    All communities need to examine themselves and figure out how to raise hard working, respectful children.
    Greed is one of the serious problems in the white, black, and brown affluent community. Parents who encourage greed by, for example, buying their child’s way into a “prestigious” college are showing their children that money, not hard work is the way to go.
    Parents of affluence who tell their children that allowance is dependent on the best grades the child is capable of getting, and that the desire for a car can only be fulfilled by the teen earning the money to pay for the car are teaching their children self reliance and the rewards of hard work. One could only hope that one day the media will celebrate these disciplined parents instead of “the rich and famous.”
    In non affluent communities there are many parents who are raising hard working, respectful children. It is doubtful that these successful parents are telling their children to use “victimhood” as an excuse for disrespectful, and, even, violent behavior. One could only hope that someday soon their voices will be the loud ones, and that the media will highlight their values and their parenting skills. These are the rightful mentors.

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  22. Lars says:

    kayhong wai says: Do read David Reich, as I read your recommended works.
    First I want thank you for recommending Dr. Reich, his work is fascinating.
    Your use of logical fallacies is also quite informative.
    Your use of the Genetic fallacy, is quite apropos.
    Your appeal to novelty, or age, I am not quite certain.
    Why you would find Dr. Reich’s youthful inexperience a plus? It is hard to comprehend.
    If you actually looked at Dr. Sanford’s work, and experience, and all his accomplishments, in his more than 30 years as genetics Prof. at Cornell, and another 15 plus years as Ass. prof at Cornell. His at least 3 inventions that helped feed the world. His more than 100 scientific publications, his 2 Biotech enterprises, derived from his research.
    His books. If you really want to know, understand, you need to read “Genetic Entropy”
    The last more than 15 years, have been devoted to theoretical genetics, and bioinformatics.
    The genetic entropy or, huge mutation rate uncorrected by the DNAs repair system, and it’s accumulating effect, says quite a lot about Dr. Reich’s assumptions.
    Your subtle Ad Hominem attack, on Dr. Sanford, and Dr. Carter, because they both went from believing in Darwinian evolution, when in their post doc. work, couldn’t find the evidence they were taught was there. They simply followed the evidence and threw off the blinders.
    In Dr. Carter’s work with Dr. Sanford etc. he’s has sequenced his own genome, and though he is lily white, has genetic lines to Cameroon, about as dark any people on earth.
    The Fact that Mitochondrial Eve, is shown to go back 200,000 years, and all people are derived from her, and now they can trace all maternal, or Mitochondrial lines, to 3 women, approximately 5000 years ago.
    Is more than good evidence we all are one race, the human race.
    I didn’t see any work by Dr. Reich, using the Mitochondrial genes, granted I have much more research to do on Dr. Reich’s work.
    And yes, do as kayhong wai says, I hope that people will read Dr. Sanford’s books, and research, NOT what someone say’s about Sanford’s or Dr. Carter’s work. But read their own work.
    Perhaps Dr. Reich will one day come close to equaling Dr. Sanford’s accomplishment’s.
    He has plenty of time, but since Dr. Sanford has been working in the field of genetics, and continues to do so, since Dr. Reich’s was in diapers, he
    has a long way to go.
    I am well aware of Nat. Geo’s shortcomings, which are legion.
    Perhaps the problem is there is not a good definition of race, but using common mutations, DNA errors, disease, etc. common to different genetic bottlenecks or isolations is not a good measure.
    Here is a short snippet, of Dr. Reich’s writing.
    ‘Groundbreaking advances in DNA sequencing technology have been made over the last two decades. These advances enable us to measure with exquisite accuracy what fraction of an individual’s genetic ancestry traces back to, say, West Africa 500 years ago — before the mixing in the Americas of the West African and European gene pools that were almost completely isolated for the last 70,000 years. With the help of these tools, we are learning that while race may be a social construct, differences in genetic ancestry that happen to correlate to many of today’s racial constructs are real.
    Recent genetic studies have demonstrated differences across populations not just in the genetic determinants of simple traits such as skin color, but also in more complex traits like bodily dimensions and susceptibility to diseases. For example, we now know that genetic factors help explain why northern Europeans are taller on average than southern Europeans, why multiple sclerosis is more common in European-Americans than in African-Americans, and why the reverse is true for end-stage kidney disease.’

    The 4 dimensional genetic information, 5, if you include time, some say it could turn out to be 12 dimensions. Trillions of cells, multiplied trillions of neural connections, we have barley scratched the surface, of this staggering complexity
    Genes that regulate other genes, that still regulate other genes. Palindromic genetic sequences that, do completely different things, depending on direction of read etc.
    Trillions of cells, multiplied trillions of neural connections, nanomachines, etc. truly amazing, staggering complexity. We are one human race, with a myriad of differences but still one.

    Please Read Dr. Sanford’s book “Genetic Entropy”

    On a slightly lighter note, in accord with the buying of university admission, etc.
    Read “Springtime For Snowflakes” by just retired Prof at NYU, Michael Rectenwald.
    Also try to listen to him interviewed on grade inflation, etc. where he says, a D, is now an A-, B+ at worst.
    Carry on

    Lars out

    Like

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