10 Responses to Trump told us to come (January 6)

1. Steve Witherspoon says:

   February 12, 2021 at 9:09 am

   Did The Democrats “Tank” The Second Trump Trial?

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   • madisonexpat says:

     February 12, 2021 at 4:51 pm

     They knew it was a ridiculous charge. They knew the senate would not convict. They knew Justice Roberts refused to preside.
     So yes. They only want to be able to say they impeached him twice.
     A farce of a sham of a travesty. Just like the first one.

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2. Steve Witherspoon says:

   February 12, 2021 at 9:28 am

   “Trump told us to come (January 6)”

   “More and more insurrections are admitting they came at Trump’s direction.”

   In my opinion these are literal false flag rationalizations. A false flag operation is an act committed with the intent of disguising the actual source of responsibility and pinning blame on a second party. A rationalization is the action of attempting to explain or justify behavior or an attitude with logical reasons, even if these are not appropriate. These kinds of false flag rationalizations are trying to state or imply blame on President Trump for the criminal actions of others. President Trump is an unethical jerk but he did not tell the others to engage in criminal activities like rioting, attacking police, vandalizing, storming the Capital building, threaten members of Congress and the Vice President, etc, etc. President Trump is not criminally liable for how extremists and/or anarchists choose to interpret and/or bastardize his words trying to immorally justify their own criminal actions.

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   • David Blaska says:

     February 12, 2021 at 12:39 pm

     Steve, I understand your point. But since last summer, finding himself well behind in the polls, Trump has laid the groundwork for claiming a rigged election. Is he clairvoyant or just CYA. He brought scores of legal challenges, all repudiated. His A.G. found no evidence. So he schedules a rally for the very day Congress is scheduled to confirm the Electoral College vote? He demands that his vice president overturn the election and criticizes him when he won’t. Not in private but to the crowd. From what authority in the Constitution? And yes, the President IS responsible for how extremists interpret his words. Not criminally liable, but politically. He needed to say the election is over. It was not stolen. Even the joint chiefs of staff felt the need to state the military would take no part in a coup. What was the alternative to conceding? January 6 was the alternative.

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     • Steve Witherspoon says:

       February 12, 2021 at 4:00 pm

       Dave wrote, “Trump has laid the groundwork for claiming a rigged election.”

       The election was rigged in that it was manipulated or controlled by deceptive or dishonest means. The Democrats and the media have been rigging the 2020 election since November 2016 and the unconstitutional and illegal things related to voting that were implemented due to COVID-19 are part of it.

       Dave wrote, “He brought scores of legal challenges, all repudiated.”

       That statement implies that all of the cases were rejected based on the merits of the case and that is simply not true. Nearly all of the cases never got into court they were rejected for other reasons that were not based on the merit of the cases.

       Dave wrote, “His A.G. found no evidence.”

       I’m pretty sure the A.G. said he found no evidence of “voter fraud” or “fraud” but the A.G. did not say that there weren’t illegal or unconstitutional things that happened in the states where suits were raised.

       Dave wrote, “So he schedules a rally for the very day Congress is scheduled to confirm the Electoral College vote?”

       So what?

       Dave wrote, “He demands that his vice president overturn the election and criticizes him when he won’t. Not in private but to the crowd. From what authority in the Constitution?”

       That’s NOT what President Trump asked Vice President Pence to do; we’ve already talked about this.

       Dave wrote, “And yes, the President IS responsible for how extremists interpret his words. Not criminally liable, but politically.”

       You’re skating down a really slippery slope with that “not criminally but politically” statement. If the President actually incited insurrection as the impeachment states, then he is CRIMINALLY liable in criminal court. The problem is that President Trump’s speech was constitutionally protected free political speech, the SCOTUS has already ruled on such things. President Trump did not incite therefore he is not liable, the politicians are lying to “We the People” and bastardizing the United States Constitution with another unconstitutional impeachment and a Senate trial of a private citizen which is clearly unconstitutional..

       Dave wrote, “He needed to say the election is over.”

       You’ll get no argument from me on that, I agree; however, making an irresponsible speech, even presenting lies in a speech, is still Constitutionally protected free speech.

       Dave wrote, “It was not stolen.”

       I never liked using the word “stolen” when describing what happened in the election, I much prefer the word rigged.

       Dave wrote, “Even the joint chiefs of staff felt the need to state the military would take no part in a coup.”

       There was no coup, there was a riot and there were some really bad people inciting that riot as it was happening and there were some really bad people in that riot that did and said some really terrible things. The rioters and inciters need to be prosecuted to the full extent of the law.

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       • AdamC says:

         February 12, 2021 at 4:21 pm

         The nearly endless montages of clips shown today by Trump’s lawyers, as Senator Johnson, absolutely legally eviscerated the case against Trump. Blew it out of the water, as RoJo said.

         It’s time to end this ridiculous political charade and acquit.

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       • David Blaska says:

         February 12, 2021 at 6:05 pm

         An “irresponsible speech” is putting it mildly! Donald Trump, then the President, is not some street corner preacher. He is the commander in chief, sworn to protect and uphold the Constitution. The insurrectionists invoked his name in their assault on the Constitution. That the beer hall putsch (coup) failed does not mean it was not attempted.

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     • madisonexpat says:

       February 12, 2021 at 4:55 pm

       You are dancing faster and faster, Squire.
       Not helping your case.

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       • David Blaska says:

         February 12, 2021 at 6:02 pm

         Nikki Haley latest to desert Trump. I suppose another RINO and traitor but they are adding up. Not seeing Trump make any new converts, just losing previous allies. It might be his cause that needs help, not mine.

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       • Liberty says:

         February 12, 2021 at 6:06 pm

         Don’t think Trump is losing allies. From just a few days ago.

         “https://www.usnews.com/news/politics/articles/2021-02-09/70-of-republicans-would-consider-joining-new-party-formed-by-donald-trump-poll-finds”

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