Peace & safety loses out to virtue signaling
Angela Jackson is president of Allied/Dunn’s Marsh neighborhood association. She and her board of directors asked for a ban on alcohol consumption at 1.2-acre Allied Park after several shootings.
“I support the ban because when the [90-day temporary] ban was there it was decent and we have children,” she told the Madison Common Council on November 17.
Not good enough for 12 of Madison’s woke alders. Because Progressive Dane was concerned that banning alcohol consumption in the neighborhood park might (wait for it) discriminate against minorities.
“There’s legitimate equity concerns here,” quibbled Ald. Tag Evers, who represents the wealthy and overwhelmingly white Vilas Monroe Street 13th District. “My sense is there’s not much pushback when these recommendations come from an alder … to acknowledge the racial justice issues that may occur.”
Ald. Grant Foster (Progressive Dane) agreed. “I’m just struggling how an alcohol ban affects root-cause issues. I would like to see the equity analysis.” Foster and Evers are White.
“Amid recent shootings, Allied Drive neighborhood
is working to curb violence.”
“Not to tear up this park, not to be shooting in the park, not to be partying at 2, 3, 4 in the morning,” Alice Howard, Allied Dunn’s Marsh neighborhood association former president, said. — Summer of 2020 NBC TV-15
Never mind that area Ald. Zachary Henak met five times with the neighborhood after the shootings. “The requests for an alcoholic ban did not stop, it came from residents,” Henak argued.
Blaska’s Bottom Line: Who would watch out for minorities if it weren’t for progressives like Foster and Evers conducting “equity analyses”?
Blaska Policy Werkes 
37 responses to “Minority residents aren’t woke enough for Madison alders”
Simple — MAKE the Alders prove THEIR belief in equality and spend all the weekends in the park ,,,, with their families they can take some nice grillers and picknik ware.
They “decline”???? THEY ARE RACIST
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Bravo Indigo November Golf Oscar! Deeply viscid irony!
Alinsky’s Rules for Radicals # 4:
“Make The Enemy Live Up To Its Own Book Of Rules.”
The Gotch
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John,
Brilliant. But they won’t eat their own cooking.
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“I’m just struggling how an alcohol ban affects root-cause issues.”
The only Foster from whom you’d expect to hear that slobbered would be the late Foster Brooks.
“I would like to see the equity analysis.”
“Root Cause” issues…”Equity analysis”?
Whiskey Tango Foxtrot?? Where do these people get these ideas?
They makes Gabby Johnson’s Authentic Frontier Gibberish seem positively Churchillian!
SM F H!!
The Gotch
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What the hell was all that? Your rant is absolute nonsense.
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Maybe putting a memorial statue to G.Flyold , commemorated by guest A.Bernstein, will pur a stop to violence in the park. Bring your 40oz to pour some out , at a the random gun-fire salute, Do like the “benevolent” ones at the Holocaust Museum. https://jewishnews.timesofisrael.com/holocaust-museum-opens-exhibition-about-the-killing-of-george-floyd/
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The eternal Kingsford charcoal lighter fluid flame!
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Now the GOP has filed a lawsuit to overturn the entire Wis. eNow that the gop has showed lection. PLEASE PLEASE Dems do not fight this. Let it happen. Do Overs. YEAH. Ask Steil, Fitzgerald, Grotham, Tiffany and Gallagher if they want the voters to go back to the polls. After all that has come to light since 11/3 let’s have another election. What a bunch of Dumb-Asses.
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LOL ! : )
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Fun facts to share at your next soiree or when some painfully ignorant sanctimonious proglibot screeches about the urgent need to create more More MORE restrictions on the 2nd Amendment.
The United States is 3rd in murders throughout the world.
If you remove
#1-Chicago
#2-Detroit
#3-Washington DC
#4-St Louis
#5-New Orleans
the United States is then 189th out of 193 countries in the entire world.
All five cities have *strict* gun control laws.
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That Top Five…there appears to be a similarity…can’t quite put a finger on it….
The Gotch
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Gotch – you see race, others see economics. In other words, I think your position is just the flip side of the race baiters in Madison.
Watch this 14 min vid https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tbKp8OV6F64 and tell me just how you’d get out of this existence if you and everyone else in those neighborhoods were white. I seriously doubt that your skin color would lead to your salvation.
Not everyone is as privileged as you are.
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Gotch – Actually, let me save you some time in responding to my comment, which I think was unduly judgmental about your own post. I agree that culture (NOT race per se) certainly does have a lot to do with these problems. Here are some responses to that short documentary which certainly have the ring of truth. (Actually, after watching it again, I think this excellent short doc is actually different from the one I had in mind. That was a longer one which I can’t remember the name of.
As per my broken record mantra, I do put the onus for all this violence and despair mostly on the Chicago Public School System, which is probably worse than Madison when it comes to offering educational alternatives for families who want them. And that certainly would includes many families in Madison who have fled Chicago for the very reasons portrayed in this video.
Below are comments by different individuals, separately by paragraph, and taken from the first 50 or so:
Every time you make a gansta rap song you’re just making the problem worse.
He might be sayin the hood messed up but that’s how some ppl make bank to have enough to leave or put food in their plate they ain’t born w a golden fork in their hand. Trust me 80% of ppl r born into this shit I live in the south side but I got homies in the west and it be hard to hang w dem.
I grew up in a neighborhood like that. And listening to that bullshit music is part of the problem. You are what you think and speak. Grow the fuck up and raise them kids. Teach them the way we grew up was bullshit! Being a rapper ain’t the only way out of poverty. Read a damn book, and educate yourselves. It’s all kinds of stuff to sell other than drugs and music. Work hard and stop looking for the easy way out.
Do what sells to get out you need to pay attention before you talk shit
I do have to agree with you. I grew up in the same and my parents were STRICT AS HELL and I was a nerd but on my way home from the bus I was tempted to dope fiends and men who wanted to molest me or kidnap and I always told my dad.
True story. Chicago was our home. I raised my son in South Shore then relocated to Woodlawn. When he turned 15, he started hanging out with the wrong crowd and being in areas he knew were forbidden by me. I was a single Mother. Worked multiple jobs most of his life. Every day it was another child’s picture on the SunTimes that had just got murdered. Many of my friends had children who had been shot. Some died. I made a decision. I got my tax refund. Put in my 2 week notice, ended my lease, sold all my belongings, packed 4 suitcases of or necessities, and bought 2 one-way tickets to Georgia. We were homeless the first few weeks. Georgia is slow and boring as hell. But my son just turned 21. He is alive and well. Many of his friends have died or are in jail. Many call him daily begging to him to assist them with moving here. I haven’t even allowed him to go back and visit. I love Chicago, but we ain’t gone die for it.
Garbage culture,garbage mindset.70% of homes are single mothers.No fathers,no father fixures.Take no responsibility for anything.Its everyone else’s fault.
When you glorify guns,drugs,whips,hoes,gangs,killings,bravado, what did you expect the outcome was going to be?
I don’t get it at all ! These people live in a country where you can be ANYTHING you want to if you are really willing and focused but yet they choose this lifestyle?? I came to this country 15 years ago , worked in a restaurant as a kitchen prep , saved my fist $1500 after a month and a half , bought my first car , got a second job and after couple of years saved $30k to open my first business ….life is all about choices !
Funny how I was born and raised here on the South Side and was 1 of 3 white families on my block (59th Talman). I never got arrested, graduated high school, found work, and raised a family. Tired of hearing excuses. It’s straight up laziness and bad parenting. Once kids get a few hundred easy dollars from selling drugs, they want more. Then they think they are rich once they have $1000. Instead of saving that money they re-invest in more drugs. Sooner or later they get caught or get robbed. Back to square 1. I don’t feel bad. Then they say they didn’t have the same opportunities as me. Yes, you’re right. I didn’t get jobs because of the color of my skin. I had to take a bus into the suburbs every morning at 6:10am.
—–end of comments —
I hope this saved you some time in responding too strongly. It’s a complex issue for sure, but whenever I see not-so-veiled racist comments from comfortable white people who seem to have no idea what is going on in our inner cities – which is not really their own fault – I do see a red flag. Again, not really your fault, and I apologize in advance if I offended you with my post.
-Amos
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AMOS — I didn’t get anything racial from Gotch’s remark. My immediate thought was, five Liberal cities, operating with Progressive agendas that encourage bad decisions, all with rather tenuous relationships with their own police departments. —- I did watch your video, (because of the question you posed). Only two professions are discussed, drug dealing and rapping. I wonder how many deal to feed their own habits? How many just when they need money for rent and food? How many just to buy material things, (cars, clothes, guns,etc.)? I would think that a competent drug dealer could accumulate a sizeable bankroll in a year, so put it toward a better life. Unfortunately if you “lick the spoon”, work part-time, or spend your money on “flash”,– you lack committed goals. (because you are a “victim”?) — Rappers —As an acknowledged professional musician, you are acutely aware of the sacrifices and the lengths some must go to succeed in that business. (working gratis, busking, seeking and exploiting every opportunity, etc.) Had you simply learned 15 or 20 piano pieces, then declared yourself to be a pianist, and then just slept and “hung out on the corner with your friends”, where would you be? Would you be a “victim? Progressivism has sold a lot of people a “victim-hood bill of goods”. —Your question — If we all lived in a “white ghetto”, and truly wanted to escape it, (not being victims) it would be up to US to effect that. Whether we succeed, or fail, it’s on us. If I can’t make it as a rapper, it’s not because I’m white !! –(on second thought, it probably is)
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PArts – I do believe that some of us need to get to bed earlier. 🙂
Aside from you not thinking that Gotch’s remark wasn’t racist in nature, I agree with your post. Thinking that you may have missed my follow-up one which makes your point and revises my first post as well. But the power of poverty and violence (and of course the media) are IMO undeniably the most important factors in all this. Anyone familiar with the struggles of black folks under Jim Crow knows that this is not a race issue per se. This is why it’s particularly disheartening to see the white plantation owners in Madison treat black families who are fleeing Chicago for a better life as just slavish pawns in their own game of virtue-signaling, regardless of the obvious cost to these folks.
Thanks for the post and hope you have a great Thanksgiving. Still a lot to be grateful for, even if some of us (definitely not me) have to search deeper for this.
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PS: regarding the skin color of rappers, check out Yellow Man sometime. Based on my very limited knowledge of this field, I’d say he’s truly one of the greats.
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Yeah, your right. I read your comment around midnight, and sat down a couple of hours later and replied. New comments don’t show up without “refreshing”, so your later posts showed up as soon as I hit “Post Comment”. Your right about needing to call it a night as well.
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“I didn’t get anything racial from Gotch’s remark.”
That’s because you’re perceptive pANTIFArts, don’t see everything through a racial filter, and (most importantly) not given to taking yourself too seriously.
NOTHING racial was insinuated, implied, intended, intoned, inferred, intimated, or otherwise suggested.
What was insinuated, implied, intended, intoned, inferred, intimated, or otherwise suggested?
That all five (5) are D卐M☭CRAT $#!THOLES; anyone that heard a dog whistle IS the dog!
“Had you simply learned 15 or 20 piano pieces,”
Hear the one about the 12 inch pianist…?
The Dog
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Cities with strict gun-control can’t stop shooters from bringing in weapons from out of state, as Chicago’s Mayor Lightfoot has pointed out. Gun control advocates would like to see Congressional action limiting firearms on a national level.
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Voice,
I presume you support only criminals having guns, si?
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Voice – All your “solution” does is to ensure that the criminals end up paying more for these weapons while law-abiding citizens are left defenseless. The level that this lawlessness and terror can lead to for honest civilians is illustrated just south of our border. You want to take a huge chunk out of gun violence? Decriminalize all drugs.
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Voice,
Your comment encouraging a country wide limitation on firearms once again evokes the micro-brain reference but since it’s Thanksgiving Batman will refrain. Aside from the bazillion *unenforced* gun laws already on the books, hows about concentrating on reigning in the violence in the top five cities so the USA would come in at 189 out of 193 countries for murder?
One guarandamnteed solution would be to evict, eject, and discharge, with extreme prejudice all the sleazy proglibocrats running those cities and replace with God fearing, pro-America, common sense, hard-ass, law and order conservatives. Not possible I know but would work.
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Progressives will scream that your solution will affect “minority communities” disproportionately. And they are absolutely correct. It would be the single greatest step towards making those communities safer in the history of our country.
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We are rewriting the Republican playbook for Georgia 2021.
We are rewriting the Republican playbook for 2022.
What we previously considered “cheating” we will now consider “essential”.
Don’t be losers; it is a choice.
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Well, if you can make people wear masks in public, not gather with family and friends who don’t live in their abode for Thanksgiving, shut down many businesses or limit their capacity, all in the name of saving lives that might, and I do mean MIGHT be affected or lost due to covid; then why can’t we ban the use of alcohol in a public park, which is owned by the people in the City of Madison?
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Jeepers Bill..do you ant to ruin EVERYTHING…?
The Gotch
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Does Tag Evers live anywhere near a city park? Asking for a friend.
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I remember being at a Council meeting early- to mid-2000s on a temporary ban on loitering. All of the Allied residents (and maybe some others) were basically all in favor. Isthmus residents almost uniformly opposed even though the difference in crime at the time were factors of level lower than Allied. Allied lost…the issue the area has faced for over 2 decades. Sad then, sad now.
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“I have to protect black people because they are too stupid to protect themselves.” — Tag Evers
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“But the power of poverty and violence (and of course the media) are IMO undeniably the most important factors in all this. Anyone familiar with the struggles of black folks under Jim Crow knows that this is not a race issue per se.”
Not understanding your second sentence Amos??
Re: Gotch’s remark– I almost included the fact that all five cities were long time blue in my OP but figured it was self-evident. I immediately understood that was what Gotch was referring to and race quite literally never entered my mind upon reading his response.
Have a look at these 5min video lectures about root cause and more.
https://www.prageru.com/video/black-fathers-matter/
https://www.prageru.com/video/the-top-5-issues-facing-black-americans/
https://www.prageru.com/video/dont-judge-blacks-differently/
https://www.prageru.com/video/is-america-racist/
https://www.prageru.com/video/blacks-in-power-dont-empower-blacks/
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Batman, you’re right, that isn’t clear at all. What I meant that was under segregation there was a very strong black culture with intact families and a serious culture of high achievement among many segregated black communities. (As a musician, I know all about that, and I wrote about this on my website when I ran for school board.)
I’m sure you are familiar with the observation that the irony of desegregation was that it enabled so many role models to escape segregated neighborhoods and leave others behind. Regarding intact families, I think that the percentage of two-parent black families was actually higher than white families after the Civil War! (Sorry I can’t quickly dig up the source for that since this is a hasty TG day response.)
Glad to hear that Gotch was really referring to Democratic-controlled cities. Case closed, so far as I’m concerned.
Thanks for the links, I’ll check them out, although I’m guessing I already understand and largely agree with those points. That said, I do stand by my position that there are far too many privileged white folks who honestly just are clueless when it comes to the reality of trying to get ahead when you’re black and stuck in a community of poverty and violence.
Not a bleeding heart liberal, but I see this all the time coming from many perfectly upstanding conservatives.
Happy Thanksgiving!
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Do Obama’s kids have white privilege?
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“Do Obama’s kids have white privilege?”
Depends; Hopey Changey, according to Lefty’s laughable George Zimmerman White Hispanic paradigm, would be a Black White, ergo, his progeny ought be entitled.
So, like, you know, they should be, am I right?
Anywho, from above:
“race quite literally never entered my mind upon reading his response.”
Sorry Caped Crusader, this stunning indication of your White Privilege infused “pull up the ladder after you ascend” attitude needs to be…um…addressed.
You’s want to self-report or shall we send someone…?
The Gotch
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Well as the Pink Floyd “Wish you were here” song lyrics go in part, “….did you exchange a walk on part in a war for a lead role in a cage…..”
Yes, I believe that is what our city council wants. Us all to have a lead role in a cage.
That includes all of us, black white or brown. Male or female. Straight, gay, lesbian, trans, etc.
They want you to be obedient to them.
They do this through guilt tripping you to think that somehow you are the racist, homophobe, misogynist bigot that they want you to be for their purposes. They, the “woke” crowd want you to think that unless you think exactly the way they want you to, you are wrong.
I am, and will never be one of their lab rats in a cage!
I will not exchange a walk on part in the war for a lead role in one of their cages.
Long live Freedom!
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Does Evers have a daughter who could date Khari Sanford?
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It’s obviously nonsense. Once you understand progressive doublethink psychology, it all makes sense:
Believe us, but don’t take us seriously.
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Anybody else ever notice how racist liberals are? Especially the woking dead? I mean seriously, to claim that stopping drinking at parks affects minorities implies that any people hanging out at parks drinking must be minorities. What do the woking dead call that? Microaggressions? Such…freaking…hypocrites.
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