The revolving door
” ‘The system’ is releasing people just as fast as arrests are made.”
We give today’s edition of your favorite blog over to Police Chief Mike Koval.
by Police Chief Mike Koval
Something that has particularly piqued my interest insofar as it has cast a light on a seriously flawed phenomenon—the failure of a juvenile justice system to properly prevent/intercede/treat/or hold accountable chronic offenders.
MPD has initiated public awareness campaigns across a host of social media platforms, public service announcements, neighborhood forums and watch meetings, leafletting and has even gone door-to-door on occasion to try to get folks to close garage doors, lock cars, and take simple steps to prevent being victimized.
We have worked collaboratively with families, mentors, not-for-profits, social service agencies, clergy, prosecutors, judges, schools and media to try to call attention to the fact that we have a group of juveniles who have effectively demonstrated that they are impervious to juvenile “justice” system(s) that lack sufficient resources to alter outcomes which can only lead to “adult” sanctions in the near future.
I am out in the public–a lot. People are frustrated over the stolen cars issue and want to know if we are making any headway, or more bluntly, “why don’t you make some arrests???”
I tell people, emphatically, that our cops ARE making arrests—they have not lost their zeal but they are becoming more disheartened that the complementary pieces of the “system” are releasing people just as fast as arrests are made. Stolen autos are the most visible touchstone for everyone’s malcontent but I can assure you that we have a revolving door malady that has become hard to ignore for a small but consequential group of juveniles.
By way of example, for the reporting period of 1/1/18-7/19/18, 32 juveniles have accounted for almost 22% of all of our juvenile contacts for incidents of property crime, crimes against persons, and stolen autos. Here is a snap shot:
32 Juveniles impact on police resources in the City:
- 37 stolen auto incidents
- 24 persons related incidents
- 46 property related incidents
- 1 drug related incident
Total of 108 incidents (roughly 9 incidents per month).
Officers report that when making arrests of some of these juveniles, they are wearing GPS monitoring devices attached from a previous court case. Increasingly, youthful offenders driving stolen vehicles are not hesitating to flee officers. Video obtained from some homeowners’ private cameras display a boldness that is both intentional and reckless. MPD is currently working a case where a number of juvenile offenders took part in breaking into a home and sexually assaulting a defenseless woman.
Someone stopped me in the street and pointed out that Wisconsin used to have a “joyriding” statute on the books and this is no different than what they experienced as a rite of passage growing up. Sort of a “kids will be kids” rationalization. I disagree(d). When you put a youthful and inexperienced driver behind the wheel of a two-ton bullet (car), the potential for a pursuit could lead to tragic results.
Additionally, we have had reports from constituents advising that in light of their personal fear of having their homes entered while still present, some are considering the purchase of a handgun for personal defense of their family. While the Castle Doctrine may be a viable legal defense, no one wants to have to deal with the taking of a life when a juvenile-burglar rifling through someone’s car in a garage ends up getting shot.
Our officers are well-acquainted with these offenders and are implementing focused deterrence initiatives in an attempt to take away the notion that juvenile offenders can move seamlessly about .
Visit the Chief’s blog here.
Blaska’s Bottom Line: District Attorney Ozanne, what have you to say? Dane County Board of Supervisors? Still more restorative justice? Madison Metropolitan School Board: you still want cops out of school? Who will be the first elected official to respond to Chief Koval’s alarm?
Blaska Policy Werkes 
59 responses to “Police Chief Koval: few consequences for juvenile crime”
I just posted the link to his blog, specifically for this article, on the East Buckeye neighborhood Face Book page, earlier today
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Cue “Officer Krupke” from West Side Story. Google the lyrics if unfamiliar.
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You mean to tell me that s#!t-for-brains child-rearing by parents that are kids themselves, watching role model parents acting like ill-kempt thugs, never hearing the word NO, restorative justice, & public-school-proffered cultural marxism actually AREN’T working??
Whodda thunk it?
The Gotch
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The vast majority of Madisonians are hung up on playing around with all kinds of nifty ways to deal with symptoms of the broken dysfunctional nuclear family. You can tell by who they vote onto the common council.
Causation seems to be a foreign concept.
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Batman wrote, “Causation seems to be a foreign concept.”
They think Correlation = Causation.
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And Seductive Beliefs Part II:
http://jewishworldreview.com/cols/sowell060111.php3#.VoaOr_nytmM
The Gotch
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Hey Gootch, I read your article from the fringe. In part it said, “All of this is consistent with Obama’s general approach to foreign policy— selling out our allies to curry favor with our adversaries.” Wow, I thought that was Trump’s gig. I’m so confused (I know you’ll agree, but try to rise above yourself).
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@AnonyBob;
“I’m so confused”
No truer words were ever spake.
Now, let the healing begin!
The Gotch
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“…try to rise above yourself.” I knew that was wasted breath.
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Plus they refuse to take any responsibility for their own choices, it’s always someone else’s responsibility.
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@Zoltar Speaks!;
“Plus they refuse to take any responsibility for their own choices, it’s always someone else’s responsibility.”
Personal responsibility is a critical element of living and thriving in a civilized society. It and, having it dictate your conduct, is a teachable skill which is imparted by one’s parent/parents.
Too many of these “parents” (a term I use with extreme caution) lack personal responsibility themselves; how can you teach skills you don’t possess yourself?
That’s why many of these miscreants embrace the cultural marxist trait of Seductive Beliefs. Why accept responsibility/own up when you’s can just point fingers, throw up you’s hands and say “it’s just not MY fault?”
The inimitable Dr. Thomas Sowell sums it up with superb eloquence in his seminal Treatise: Seductive Beliefs Part I.
http://jewishworldreview.com/cols/sowell053111.php3#.VoaOYPnytmM
The Gotch
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And Seductive Beliefs Part II:
http://jewishworldreview.com/cols/sowell060111.php3#.VoaOr_nytmM
The Gotch
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“refuse to take responsibility”. Where is yours? The police are running “public awareness campaigns” to teach you fools to lock your friggin’ car, lock your garages. Going door to door telling you people to do that is not a very good use of resources. Am I right?
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”I knew that was wasted breath.”
Shoot @AnonyBob, you toss me a slow lob and expect me not to take a swing?
Bass-Ackwards enabling if youse ask me.
The Gotch
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Another smarmy, weaselly, disingenuous comment from gootch. Maybe if you supported programs and funding services in the past this problem wouldn’t exist. You didn’t stand up for sex-ed in schools, you hate planned parenthood, you cut funding to every program and now your bitching about kids having kids. Reap what you sow.
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@richard lesiak;
Mercy me, that post contains more-than-the-usual ill-informed meaningless claptrap!
Yessirree @AnonyBob! More money’ll help, am I right?
Maybe we should start funding a donut-making mentoring program?
Can’t argue quantifiable results; look what it’s done for youse…!
The Gotch
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The chief….”juvenile justice system(s) that lack sufficient resources to alter outcomes.” Your right “more money’ll help.” That’s what Koval just said; “lack of resources.”
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@richard lesiak;
PARENTING, woefully lacking in Lefty’s base, is the ultimate resource.
There wouldn’t need to be resources (AKA BIG GUBMINT intervention) if thug/criminal/miscreant children weren’t having children of their own.
“Your (sic) right ‘more money’ll help.’ ”
More money and all the reminders in the world haven’t helped youse understand the very basic difference between your & you’re.
The Gotch
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Cornelius Gotchberg wrote, “Mercy me, that post contains more-than-the-usual ill-informed meaningless claptrap!”
Look at the time of day he posted that comment (11:59 pm), I’m sure it was after hours and hours of Alki-Bopping.
Signed,
Zoltar Speaks!
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@richard lesiak;
Of note: these present-day POS thug/criminal/miscreants spent their formative (I use that term with EXTREME caution) years under the self-anointed First Post-Racial POTUS EVAH!!! Hopey Changey and his identity politics/it’s not your fault/blame Whitey Administration.
How’d that work out?
Say; didn’t Tavis Smiley, who is reportedly Black, have a rather scathing indictment of yer Hopey Changey hero?
Why yes, yes, I believe Tavis Smiley, who is reportedly Black, DID have a rather scathing indictment of yer Hopey Changey hero!
From the bedrock Conservative HuffPo:
Tavis Smiley: Black Americans Have ‘Lost Ground’ Under Obama
Quoth Smiley: “Sadly — and it pains me to say this — over the last decade, BLACK FOLK, IN THE ERA OF OBAMA, HAVE LOST GROUND IN EVERY MAJOR ECONOMIC CATEGORY.” (bolds/caps mine)
https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/tavis-smiley-obama-black-wealth_us_569820dbe4b0ce496423f053
Ohmy! Taken out of context…?
Good thing Smiley’s reportedly Black. If not he’d be shouted down and harassed mercilessly for being a raaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaacist!
Ah Lefty; so MUCH hypocrisy, so little time!
The Gotch
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Cultural rot of gangsta rap is coming home. ”Course, rap only musik and don’t hurt no whon.”
Toxic cultures….toxic behavior….never will change. Deal with it. None want standards; fewer believe in anything like personal responsibility. Nothing new…a cancer spreading.
and soothing dealers are found at the exits of middle schools. Get’sem whilz they young. We all victims of patriarchy, da man, racism, phobia-isms of every flavor and ethnicity, including lbgqT, vegans, witches, etc.
There is no consensus about culture, responsibility, law, or ethics. Property is theft ; don’t rat on no whon. Snitches be ***C***
There. I said it. Honor me. I just DID IT, like Nike said I should.
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I would be interested to hear some details regarding police contact with the PARENtS of the “32 juveniles [that] have accounted for almost 22%” of juvenile crime. Are they held accountable or penalized in any way for the misdeeds of their feral offspring?
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Hard to hold Daddy accountable when you don’t even know who he is. Sad, but in most cases true.
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What about mommy?
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If the only option for homeowners who are not protected by “the system” is to arm themselves, then I think there would be an overwhelming deterrence to crime by shooting a few of these feral youth.
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Why just a few?
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Sounds like Madison’s Detention to the street pipeline is working.
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Observation is the most powerful and influential way that kids imprint and learn while growing up.
The Freedom Inc. terrorists are teaching their kids to be dishonest bullies with a cause so righteous that no one exists except them and no idea exists except theirs.
I doubt their ideology is limited to the active members.
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Save the pearl clutching for another day Batdung. Observation? Papadouche gets 14 days for screwing with the 2016 presidential election. Not one person from Wells Fargo has served a day. Get drunk, kill people, it’s not my fault I was raised in a family with too much money. Yet you want to hang a kid for walking into a garage and boosting a fishing pole. Start at the top. Cut the head off the snake. The rich, famous and connected walk, everyone else goes to jail. But, you won’t hold them accountable because they are in your party, they give you tax breaks and you love the snake-oil massage you get while watching them on faux news.
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@richard lesiak;
”The rich, famous and connected walk, everyone else goes to jail.”
Sumbeyatch, yer finally coming around to LOCK HER UP!
To whom do I refer, you may ask?
Welp, none other than the traitorous, felonious, DeadBrokeAHontas/Faux-Feminista/rape enablin,’ husband accuser destroyin,’ cheatin’ spouse swattin,’ War mongerin,’ Weapons systems approvin,’ valor stealin,’ Nixon supportin,’ American Jobs offshorin,’ Mean YouTube Video denyin,’ NASA Space Program joinin,’ Human Rights violator endorsin,’ Minority Superpredator eliminatin’, Black Children to heel bringin,’ Marine enlistin,’ horrible health hidin,’ declining competence repudiatin,’ records release refusin,’ Four Pinocchio/Pantsuit-on-Fire lyin,’ thievin,’ deceivin,’ criminally insane, incompetent Harpy and her pervert hubby, the Former-Serial-Sexual-Predator-In-Chief!
The Gotch
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Still yapping that garbage? All the gop witch-hunts, hearings and days of testimony got them nada.
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How about Watergate and Iran-Contra. Then you have Bush/Cheney going into a fake war.And now we have a huge collection of liars, grifters, thieves, perverts and treasonous bastards ever.
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richard lesiak wrote, “Papadouche gets 14 days for screwing with the 2016 presidential election.”
You sir are a lying troll; Papadopoulos got 14 days for lying to the FBI not for “screwing with the 2016 presidential election”. Trolls like you are morally bankrupt.
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Papadouche (good one, Richard) got ONLY 14 days for lying to the FBI instead of 6 months because he cooperated with Mueller about the collusion that screwed with the election. If he didn’t have anything to offer, he wouldn’t have gotten an almost nonexistent sentence.
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14 days because he spilled his guts and drove another nail in trump’s coffin.
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Yeah; he lied to the FBI about getting Russian info on Clinton to screw with the election. Idiot.
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richard lesiak wrote, “Yeah; he lied to the FBI about getting Russian info on Clinton to screw with the election.”
You’re an ignorant Progressive parrot trolling with lies.
He did not lie about talking to the Professor who he knew to have substantial connections to Russian government officials, he lied about the timing relationship between when he became a foreign policy advisor for the Campaign and when the meeting with the professor took place.
Here are the facts about the actual lie and the core of what Papadopoulos was prosecuted for.
UNITED STATES DISTRICT COURT FOR THE DISTRICT OF COLUMBIA
UNITED STATES OF AMERICA v. GEORGE PAPADOPOULOS
Violation: 18 U.S.C. § 1001 (False Statements)
“2.a. Defendant PAPADOPOULOS claimed that his interactions with an overseas professor, who defendant PAPADOPOULOS understood to have substantial connections to Russian government officials, occurred before defendant PAPADOPOULOS became a foreign policy adviser to the Campaign.”
Here are the two facts that contradict the claim making the claim a lie…
“6. On or about March 21, 2016, the Campaign told The Washington Post that defendant PAPADOPOULOS was one of five named foreign policy advisors for the Campaign.” and “7. On or about March 24, 2016, defendant PAPADOPOULOS met with the Professor in London.”
The meeting took place, at least, three days after he formally became a foreign policy advisor for the Trump Campaign, therefore his claim was considered a lie.
These facts were copied and pasted directly from the actual criminal complaint.
If that is all well above your ability to comprehend, get one of your grandchildren to explain it to you.
Stop parroting lies!
richard lesiak wrote, “Idiot.”
Now who’s the idiot Richard? I’ll answer that – it’s you – again!
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Z: Mr. Can’t See The Forest For The Trees.
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AnonyBob wrote, “Z: Mr. Can’t See The Forest For The Trees.”
That’s 100% ad hominem trolling. It’s also an astounding display of “intellect” in response to my fact based comment. It’s good to have these reminder comments showing us the blatant obviousness of AnonyBob’s Dimwitted Persona trolling.
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Yes, technically he pleaded to a misstep about dates. But what was he in contact with the professor about? What did he later drunkenly brag about to that Aussie diplomat? Quit being so dim, and look at the forest.
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AnonyBob wrote, “Yes, technically he pleaded to a misstep about dates.”
Technically? Those are the facts that you people continue to ignore and continue to parrot other lies.
AnonyBob wrote, “But what was he in contact with the professor about?”
He never lied about that.
AnonyBob wrote, “What did he later drunkenly brag about to that Aussie diplomat?”
I wasn’t there; why don’t you fill me in with the actual facts.
AnonyBob wrote, “Quit being so dim, and look at the forest.”
I have no problem seeing both the trees and the forest; you fools in your hell bent quest to destroy Trump see an imaginary forest that is represented by a tree or two. A tree or two doesn’t make a forest and correlation doesn’t equal causation.
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“Yet you want to hang a kid for walking into a garage and boosting a fishing pole.”
More imaginary slobbering from troll boy.
“Start at the top. Cut the head off the snake.”
Yep; that will for sure fix things here in Madison.
Get back on your meds richie.
You’re welcome.
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Like Hillary?
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@richard lesiak & @AnonyBob continue their spittle-flecked slobberings despite being dealt a debilitating Gotch Spank©™® (H/T @Zoltar Speaks!) at every turn.
The Gotch
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You two are…something.
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They are just extra cranky today after finding out their water bill is going up.
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Get over yourself Qotch. The Gotch Academy? That must be what Trump U. is calling itself these days.
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No such thing as Gotch Spank on Urban Dictionary now. Looks like you’ve been thrown off ANOTHER site.
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@AnonyBob;
Seems yer confusion continues apace, that what 25 years in the state legislature does to you’s?
Anywho, in the interests of fairness, and preventing youse from contracting the virulently vacuous vapors, I intend to submit a reference to will be more in line with yer more…um…focused world view.
How does Gotch Trophy-n-a-Hug grab you’s?
The Gotch
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It grabs me as yet more of the Gootch Overweening Ego Fest.
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Taught school at LHS 1973 to 2009, back then Dane Co/ Madison sent few youths to us, since Walkers reign the DOC has been stripped of funding for training, slack of leadership , Act 10 was the death Nell for Juveniles services. Madison is having the same problems LHS has faced for the last 8 yrslogical consequences for bad behavior is the only cute for this epedimic
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Like what Koval said in his article and I pointed out. “lack of resources.”
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Hey kids! The new Acme Catalog is in. poor richard likes income inequality and more tax money for Planned Parenthood, subsidized fishin’ poles, yet another nail in the President’s coffin and ABob is still on the Russia page.
Apparently nothing else going on in their lives. Sad.
On our side we see Kamala and Corey whacking each other for the pole position to be the Dem jockey for the presidency. Kavanaugh appointment demonstrates their horse is dead.
Anyone in Wisconsin cited Tammy?
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Are you drunk?
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No. Are you offering?
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Next week-end is WOZAWA. Come on up and I’ll buy you a few. Great deals on Nike gear going on and the Polish food tent is a must. See ‘ya there?
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The Progressive parrot fool Richard Lesiak just received a Gotch Spanking.
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[…] Our neighbors here on the southwest side of Madison are all over Police Chief Mike Koval’s exposure of the juvenile justice system’s revolving door policy. (Recounted here.) […]
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[…] #12. School district and police enter into formal agreement with district attorney and courts “to avoid or defer prosecution [of students] without filing criminal charges. [Isn’t that the problem now? The same 32 kids are back on the street in what PD Chief Koval calls a revolving door.] […]
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